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lvmiker,

Well, I'm definitely of a "certain age" at 76,,,What a hooooot!!!! So a couple things

First, thanks for the compliment, much appreciated, knowing the effort that now goes into it.....

Second, I was always one of the blessed ones....The physical came easy...Never the fastest. strongest or smartest. My gift was endurance and a bull headed desire to not quit. I spent a good part of my life hanging around with others of exceptional athletic skills....And then they quit....Today most of that original group are either gone or seriously deteriorated from lack of effort, food and booze.

Third, lvmiker's advice on size and the resulting strain on joints and muscles is spot on....I'm 184 and the goal is 170...I'm real good friends with a girl in her early 30's. Average size, but works it. Not crossfit extreme, but she pushes herself regularly....Last year she did the Rachel Carson Trial challenge, which has some serious elevation ups and downs. She did 37 miles in just over 11 hours. She just finished the entire Grand Canyon North to South...20 some miles, 100 F temps, 4000 feet or so of elevation, and she finished it in just over 9 hours. Her boyfriend calls her the robot....Quit is not in her dictionary. Her friends can't even begin to keep up. And they will most likely keep falling behind.


I said it came easy for me, but I'll confess now that last year it was all taken from me....Almost all of it..By the time they got done with me I couldn't walk up a flight of steps without gasping. For the most part it has come back. For now.

If you love the outdoors and want to make it last as long as possible, then for the most part the answer lies within....Sermon over....


Smoke is another...Doing that Sheep hunt on an essentially ruined ankle was impressive....

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^ good deal there is still hope for us youngins! laugh

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squats 3/3/3+/10, bench 3/3/3+/10, pull-ups 3x10, dips 3x25, core

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Originally Posted by lvmiker
Gunner, you are a big guy and mass puts a lot of strain on your joints and muscles. Diet and exercise combined will allow you to gain the level of cardio/muscular endurance that you desire. Avoiding injury is goal one and the less mass you have to move the better. You don't have to be skinny or weak to have great cardio.

There are several guys on here that are of a "certain age" that have learned from experience what works and what hurts. hint: Battue.


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Thanks lvmiker, I appreciate the info, have already made my mind up that this is going to be part of a daily routine, I did 1.5 miles last night at 3.5 MPH on a 5% incline, heart rate hovered around 110 BPM the whole time, took two minutes on cool down at 0% incline and 2.5 MPH, heart rate was 86 BPM when I left the machine.

Went straight to the weight room and pulled another two sets of 90 lbs on the lat bar I guess it's called, 30 reps each set, tricep push down bar was next, maybe 50-60 lbs, not much weight on it, done a dozen for a couple sets, grabbed two 30 lb dumbbells with palms facing in then slowly raised and twisted them up right 15 degrees then slowly lowered, done 12 alternating per side, then let weights hang to side and done a dozen shoulder shrugs, held em for a rest, then done another 12 curls per side, wheewww! that was plenty for one evening, had no trouble sleeping last night.

Only a week so far, but cant believe how much easier it is to walk, bend, move, work etc around the farm all day long, especially coming straight off the treadmill at night, it's almost like you're floating. smile


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You all are making me feel like I’m slacking...so on the rower it will be....30 minutes.

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Well, I'm in trouble now, went out to reloading building and dug my old bike out of a dusty corner, it's a Trek something or other I bought more than 25 years ago, tires and seat are dry rotted and gone, bet there's a bike shop up in Ft. Smith that can get her up and running, there was a time, long ago, I had/needed to be in shape! smile

Haven't felt this good [stout/long winded] in a damn long time.


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^ getting after it! laugh

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LOL, it used to be a real deal MTW, for example, purposefully using a drop tube while loading 308 ammo, weigh out powder charge, then stand with pack filled with about 90lbs of sand strapped on your back, pour charge down drop tube, repeat, what a deal, had some horses stabled out at Lock and Dam 13 up in Arkansas, rode my bike out to ride horses, did nothing but ride, and go shooting at the Old Fort Gun Club, I only went to work once or twice a year back then.

Damn, to be a young man again.................................................smile


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tough hill workout- mile up, mile down, mile up, mile down

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4miles with weighted pack again. Weighed it finally, and it's 75lbs, which made me feel better.

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I had the day off yesterday so hit the Y for a good workout - squats, press, deads, dips, then a drs appt and took the boys fishing. It was hot and fishing was slow but it was better than working. Youngest took the day with the only trout caught - 10 inch rainbow.


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My weakness is the weights, i tore my right shoulder up a few years ago and I have been overly cautious since. I have 300 + miles hiking in so far this year. Hiking I love, but in bad weather I will use a treadmill, this morning I left the house at 0450 climbed a thousand feet elevation and looped back to the house. Total distance 3.6 miles, in 1` hr and 40 min. I will be 75 in a couple of months and weigh less than I did when I got out of the service in 69. I will start using a weighted pack in a few weeks.

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^ sounds like you're doing pretty good smile

4 miles this evening with Tiny Elvis

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3 miles on the trails w/ TE before the heat

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Workout at the Y yesterday - squats, bench, BB rows, BB curls.


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Typical training hike I do 2-3x weekly....

2.6 mile loop. 30-32 pounds on back. 1200' gain in 1/2 mile, 1600' total. Did a personal best this morning at 1 hour 11 minutes.


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^ that should do the trick smile

4 miles this morning with Tiny E; had to take him into the vet yesterday as he went a couple of days eating very poorly (wouldn't eat a couple of meals, poorly on a couple)- normally inhales his food in short order. Vet took xrays and blood, nothing out of the ordinary- gave him some tummy medicine to take; thought maybe he ate too much grass or something. He's back to good form today laugh

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went over the 1000 mile mark today smile

8 miles on the Helena Ridge trail with my wife and Tiny E- got it done before the heat

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Did 4 miles 800' elevation gain felt great to be out this afternoon.


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mtwarden----- is that for the year?? Or ? I was lazy today 40 min on tred mill, at 12%. Yesterday did a 1000 vertical and 3.6 miles round trip. My Joe, who is part Rotty, Mastiff, is a thin svelte 105, a very happy friendly guy

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