Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How the greatest generation begat the stupidest

I notice a lot of people on here bitch about how spoiled kids are these days. Then I see those people asking "which car should I buy for my daughter" and "which 1000.00 rifle/shotgun with what 500.00 scope should I buy my son".

I really believe had we not attacked Spain and stayed out of WW1 there wouldn't have been a WW2 thrust upon us. And we would be by far the wealthiest nation on earth, and not trillions and trillions in hock to the international banks that now pull our strings. Also the greatest generation allowed hard money done away with and the ruinous social programs of the 30s and 40s. What is happening today has been purposeful and in the works for a long time.

We also do not let kids handle real jobs until they are 16. Legally I can no hire a kid to mow my lawn. Then we expect them to wake up with a work ethic on their 16th birthday.

Kids growing up on ranches in this region do know how to work, and are constantly being called by others to see if they have some free time. Not much demand for townie kids.

The common thread through all these generations mentioned is the ever present guiding hand of the progressive movement, incrementally nudging the country farther away from the founding principles, farther from the nuclear family, farther from American exceptionalism, farther from individual accountability, farther from fiscal responsibility and farther from God. Regardless of the generation, the greatest, the baby boomers, gen X, millennials, we're missing the forest for the trees. The progressive movement has been on a slow, incremental path of destruction of every fiber of our nation's core fabric for 100 years now. What you see on TV every day is the result of that labor.

There were at least one, and in many cases two, generations between the “greatest generation” and the pieces of shixt causing the problems now. To blame the current problems on “the greatest generation” is a false concept.

Hard times create hard men.
Hard men create easy times.
Easy times create soft men.
Soft men create hard times.

I think you're onto something. BTW: Good to see you posting. The voice in my head are all scrambling to say Hi!

Farms are a key in this. I watched the end of my grandfather's generation (born in 1902) retire out of the workforce. That was the last of those who grew up when there were more farmers than others. Grandpa got off the farm, went to college, and never wanted to go back. My dad also grew up, at least partly, on a farm. I watched their decision-making skills and compare them to what has come after, and I am bewildered.

I grew up in the suburbs. 20 years ago we got a farm outside of town. That experience has dramatically changed my way of looking at the world. The farm is not working. We just use it on weekends. However, I've noticed over the years how it has changed my relationships with co-workers and changed my attitudes.

There are basic truths that are hidden from you when you're living outside of town. There are a lot more life-and-death experiences. There are greater needs for learning to do what is right, and not doing what is unnecessary. I could go on for hours describing what I've seen and done in 20 years, but for those of you who are living outside of town, I'll sound like a moron. For those of you who stay in town, I'd be making even less sense. Bottom line: life outside of town requires skills that lead to better perceptions and decision-making-- either that, or you end up dead in a variety of ways.

I'll give you an example. I tell folks that I'm an acorn farmer, and that we have discovered a unique way of harvesting the acorns. We let the deer and turkey hoover them up and then I invite my family and friends to harvest the deer and turkey. Folks who live outside of town, catch the humor. On the other hand, I've said this to managers who grew up in the suburbs and the response is invariably "You eat the acorns after they've been pooped out of a deer?" These were the same managers that had a $10 mil overrun on a $2mil project.

Better watch out! Saint Judes is looking better by day. Piss me off and you will get nothing?

Agree wholeheartedly, I've been saying this for years. My parents were part of the so-called greatest generation; although if the term had been coined while they were alive, I don't think they would have embraced it. I came of age during the hippie days and there was no way my folks would have tolerated that kind of behavior out of me. It seems there were some in that generation who got all of the discipline they wanted while they were in the armed services, and decided to forego disciplining the children they had after the war. Those undisciplined kids, the hippies, became undisciplined parents and spawned the undisciplined kids on the streets now. No discipline imposed when one is young leads to no self discipline when one gets older.

A lot of it comes down to a failure of leadership: in the home, in the church, in businesses, in sports, and in government.



Today's problems would have been visited upon us eventually, but that generation played a big role in accelerating the process. In the same way, we can't blame LBJ for liberalism, but he accelerated its effects with the Great Society programs. I don't see how one can deny that the actions (or lack thereof) of one generation don't have an impact on future events.

I was born in 1937 and my kids and grandkids are doing just fine. Only problem with my grandkids is that there ain't enough of them.

The worst president this country ever had was fdr!!! BY FAR

Uuhhhh, no.

The premise of the article is simplistic and socialist in nature, as it ascribes everything to sociological causes. This is a huge error in reasoning. Yes, sociology is one factor, as someone said that the Boomers were the first to complete public education en masse in the US. I've studied the "greatest generation" quite a bit, and I've decided that they were simply not. Neither were their parents. The agenda that has recently reached fruition is called "progressivism", and it is about 125 years old. All of the generations born since the Civil War participated in and supported this agenda. They LET us get into two world wars, several "police actions" and oversaw the invasion of over 60 nations by US intelligence and military forces. They oversaw the institution of the Federal Reserve, which handed the money over to a private banking system that we all pay interest to. They oversaw the implementation of the Federal Education System, which is simply an indoctrination system, based on the works of socialists in the 1800's from the Frankfurt School. There is nothing great about these people of the past. This is all a myth.

Mom said women in the workforce was the beginning of the fall. It helped contribute to the breakdown of the family.

Or this .........

Hard times create conservatives.

Conservatives create good times.

Good times create liberals.

Liberals create hard times

It was a necessity at one point during the War.

Right. Those wars (and women voting) caused a huge social upheaval in this country and changed it in many ways for the worse. The population became much more urbanized and dependent on government. Social Security and farm subsidies came to be expected. Elderly and sick family were put off on government charity. Public debt has been run up with abandon to the glee of the central bank. At least since the 1920s this nations population has been financing itself by mortgaging the farm (our country) not unlike some families I've seen come into property and inherited money, and lose it all.

The boomers were not the first to compete public schooling.Far from it.
Saying that the Japs and Germans LET us into the War is beyond stupid.
But no more stupid than saying that we oversaw the invasion of over 60 nations.
We also won the Cold War. Thank God for those Generations.

My great uncle managed a poor farm in Illinois.Social Security is a far, far better deal.

BOWSINGER: I'm sure social security is good deal for them that get it, but do we have a right to expect our young generation to finance our old age?