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Originally Posted by steve4102
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If it looks like Biden may actually win due to phony polls and fake news, how many here are going to pull their investments, just in case.
How do you determine that Biden may win OTHER than the fake polls?
.................I believe that we will see a huge silent majority turnout on election day. Larger than in 2016. The demCRAPs and the media know that all of their polls sample far more demCRAPs and are not trustworthy..... So! Chaos, lies, distortions, character assassinations, in co-operation with the media is their hope.

Agreed, but will enough investors, believe the BS cause a major sell off.
..If Biden wins? Possibly!


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Originally Posted by TBREW401
Biden's pick for VP is huge
That person will, after some period of time, be POTUS!
Biden can win by mail in ballot.
Why do you think the commies are pushing that so hard?

If the senate goes to the commies-- we are screwed, even if Trump wins.
They will impeach him in a matter of weeks, if not sooner.


The Senate is important in a very big way, without it, Trump’s reign is over.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Biden's pick for VP is huge
That person will, after some period of time, be POTUS!
Biden can win by mail in ballot.
Why do you think the commies are pushing that so hard?

If the senate goes to the commies-- we are screwed, even if Trump wins.
They will impeach him in a matter of weeks, if not sooner.


The Senate is important in a very big way, without it, Trump’s reign is over.


Conviction in the Senate still requires 60 votes. There will have to be a significant number of RINOs to vote to convict. Possible? Indeed.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.

Not true.

Show us a poll that shows Hillary winning the Electoral college that was accurate.


Exactly!


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Biden's pick for VP is huge
That person will, after some period of time, be POTUS!
Biden can win by mail in ballot.
Why do you think the commies are pushing that so hard?

If the senate goes to the commies-- we are screwed, even if Trump wins.
They will impeach him in a matter of weeks, if not sooner.


The Senate is important in a very big way, without it, Trump’s reign is over.


Conviction in the Senate still requires 60 votes. There will have to be a significant number of RINOs to vote to convict. Possible? Indeed.



Steve you’re right.

My focus is strictly regarding the federal courts. Without the Senate we will most likely lose the advantages that we now have.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by steve4102
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Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.

Not true.

Show us a poll that shows Hillary winning the Electoral college that was accurate.



I did not say anything about the Electoral College vote which put Trump in the WH. I clearly referred to the Popular Vote numbers which Clinton won.

2016 polls: FOX Polls had Clinton leading by 4 points. 48 to 44 percent on Nov. 6.
RCP Final Election Popular Vote up 2.1 points 48.2 to 46.1 for Clinton.



The polls showed Clinton winning the electoral college vote. Explain those. Giving the liars an out is giving them an excuse.


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Trump has some headwinds with a pandemic. Be an interesting show come Nov.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.

Not true.

Show us a poll that shows Hillary winning the Electoral college that was accurate.



I did not say anything about the Electoral College vote which put Trump in the WH. I clearly referred to the Popular Vote numbers which Clinton won.

2016 polls: FOX Polls had Clinton leading by 4 points. 48 to 44 percent on Nov. 6.
RCP Final Election Popular Vote up 2.1 points 48.2 to 46.1 for Clinton.



The polls showed Clinton winning the electoral college vote. Explain those. Giving the liars an out is giving them an excuse.


Here is one poll that said Clinton was on track to win the Electoral College vote.
“Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation
The former secretary of state was leading Trump by about 45 percent to 42 percent in the popular vote, and was on track to win 303 votes in the Electoral College to Trump’s 235, clearing the 270 needed for victory, the survey found.”


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.

Not true.

Show us a poll that shows Hillary winning the Electoral college that was accurate.



I did not say anything about the Electoral College vote which put Trump in the WH. I clearly referred to the Popular Vote numbers which Clinton won.

2016 polls: FOX Polls had Clinton leading by 4 points. 48 to 44 percent on Nov. 6.
RCP Final Election Popular Vote up 2.1 points 48.2 to 46.1 for Clinton.



The polls showed Clinton winning the electoral college vote. Explain those. Giving the liars an out is giving them an excuse.


Amazing what some of you guys don't understand.

Whoever has the most accurate polls can charge a LOT MORE MONEY for their polling. Get it? More money! Get it? Be accurate.

What does that mean? It means that whatever mistakes they made in 2016, they have been working for 4 years to correct. They are smart people. Unlike many here, they know the difference between a wish and a plan.

Trump won Ohio (a swing state) by 8% in 2016. Ohio is neck and neck right now.

Trump needs to get with a competent campaign. Stop picking dumb fights with Bubba Wallace and NASCAR. Start telling everyone what his second term will mean. How it will benefit the voters. What the dems' stuff about defunding police and green new deal will actually do for them. You don't win votes by telling voters how great the economy was before you shut it down and ruined it.

Everybody--Hannity, Rush, Rove--tells Trump to do this.


Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.

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It is a simple choice. Vote republican for everything. Then the USA stays alive and free. Otherwise, the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist wins and freedom is gone along with anything which was the USA including our Constitution. I do not believe the true Americans will sit around and watch this country become communist without a fight. Just look at the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist agenda. The new green deal will destroy the energy markets and jobs. The airline industry will die out. All the jobs will go back to china. The lives and business of the conservatives will be destroyed. Food product will cease without tractors. Then foods, medicines, and manufacturing will go back to china. This is just a start of the destruct of the greatest freedoms on earth.

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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.
Probably true that a lot of folks with a memory are smart enough to know that. Is your statement meant to bear upon the upcoming election? If so, in what way?


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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
It is a simple choice. Vote republican for everything. Then the USA stays alive and free.


I get that. I do that. The problem is that's not enough. They've got to get some other people to do that to get enough votes to win.


Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.

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True Indy. I hope we can get enough votes together for republicans.

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All of my money in my 401K and IRA will be moved to a comparable money market fund with no tax's due this September. My stocks, if in high dividend paying company's will remain, since I am only interested in the dividends, all other stocks will be sold, despite having to pay tax's on the gains. If Biden wins, I will wait six months to one year and then re-enter the market.

A Biden win would most likely mean the republicans have lost both the house and senate and you can expect tax's to rise, to pay for all the free programs the democrats will pass. Also, tax's will have to rise due to all the stimulus money we have given out. So by taking the gains before the election, if Biden wins, I will be saving money. smile.

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Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Guess I"m smart enough to know that the 2016 poll averages were very close to the popular vote that Clinton won.
Probably true that a lot of folks with a memory are smart enough to know that. Is your statement meant to bear upon the upcoming election? If so, in what way?


Mostly what I'm reading on the 'Fire is how wrong the 2016 election polls were and that just ain't true.
The popular vote and many of the last minute polls were not that far apart. Surely by now everyone must know that the Electoral College put Trump in the WH. Thank God...
Hope it will happen again. Hope Biden helps Trump repeat.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Biden's pick for VP is huge
That person will, after some period of time, be POTUS!
Biden can win by mail in ballot.
Why do you think the commies are pushing that so hard?

If the senate goes to the commies-- we are screwed, even if Trump wins.
They will impeach him in a matter of weeks, if not sooner.


The Senate is important in a very big way, without it, Trump’s reign is over.


Conviction in the Senate still requires 60 votes. There will have to be a significant number of RINOs to vote to convict. Possible? Indeed.



Steve you’re right.

My focus is strictly regarding the federal courts. Without the Senate we will most likely lose the advantages that we now have.


Actually I was wrong, it takes a 2/3 majority to convict, not 60 votes.


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I know it's high right now, but I can see where at $1,400 now it will make it to $2,000 within a year. They are exceeding production projections and sales projections, even in this crazy economy. They are even turning a profit. None of the other makers can boast that. And, Musk is a genius with Trumpian energy. It will take the rest of industry a decade to catch up to him, and by then he'll have gone un-imagined directions and leave them in his dust.

If the Dems win, electric cars will soon be mandated.

If Trump wins (God, let's hope so!), the economy will break open again like it did before the Covid scam.

Civil unrest will burn itself up and burn out, leaving many construction and infrastructure projects in the wake, equaling new good paying jobs.

I'm going long with my limited funds on Tesla. I wish I had a year ago, but there's still great opportunity.

The market in general will look like a saw blade for years, caused by daily jitters, insane politicians, and activist judges. Tesla's PC cars will weather this.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Most of us are smart enough to know that the polls are designed to shape public opinion, not reflect it. In other words they are bogus.

We have seen poll, after poll, after poll showing Biden with double digit leads all across the United States.

There are several reason why these bogus polls exist and what they wish to accomplish, but what about the Stock Market, is that part of the plan?

Lou Dobbs had an interview with RNC Chairwoman...

Lou began the interview noting that Goldman Sachs said that if Joe Biden wins the election, US stocks will decrease by $20 per share on average.

Goldman Sachs warned the Biden tax plan would slash its S&P 500 earnings estimate for 2021 to $150, a cut of about $20 per share.

This prediction makes sense as Biden would raise taxes and kill the economy.


Biden would be horrible for the markets and a Biden win would cause a market collapse.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...g-biden-win-cost-investors-20-per-share/

So, it appears that Wall Street is aware that a Biden victory will be disastrous to The Market and the Economy as a whole.

Is it possible that the closer we get to election day, the larger Biden's phony lead becomes, the more nervous investors become, causing them to get out, before it's too late setting off a chain of events causing a catastrophic market crash under Trump's watch. Like maybe in mid-October.

If it looks like Biden may actually win due to phony polls and fake news, how many here are going to pull their investments, just in case.


My first thought to your question was... yes, it's entirely possible we see a mass sell off if the media is still reporting bogus dismal polling for Trump.

Thinking about it more though, I'm not so sure. What really matters is what big money and institutional investors think and they have the means to gather the right intel. No way they make decisions with their billions of dollars based on what some social justice warrior reporters and pollster are telling the public.


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Originally Posted by copperking81
Originally Posted by steve4102
Most of us are smart enough to know that the polls are designed to shape public opinion, not reflect it. In other words they are bogus.

We have seen poll, after poll, after poll showing Biden with double digit leads all across the United States.

There are several reason why these bogus polls exist and what they wish to accomplish, but what about the Stock Market, is that part of the plan?

Lou Dobbs had an interview with RNC Chairwoman...

Lou began the interview noting that Goldman Sachs said that if Joe Biden wins the election, US stocks will decrease by $20 per share on average.

Goldman Sachs warned the Biden tax plan would slash its S&P 500 earnings estimate for 2021 to $150, a cut of about $20 per share.

This prediction makes sense as Biden would raise taxes and kill the economy.


Biden would be horrible for the markets and a Biden win would cause a market collapse.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...g-biden-win-cost-investors-20-per-share/

So, it appears that Wall Street is aware that a Biden victory will be disastrous to The Market and the Economy as a whole.

Is it possible that the closer we get to election day, the larger Biden's phony lead becomes, the more nervous investors become, causing them to get out, before it's too late setting off a chain of events causing a catastrophic market crash under Trump's watch. Like maybe in mid-October.

If it looks like Biden may actually win due to phony polls and fake news, how many here are going to pull their investments, just in case.


My first thought to your question was... yes, it's entirely possible we see a mass sell off if the media is still reporting bogus dismal polling for Trump.

Thinking about it more though, I'm not so sure. What really matters is what big money and institutional investors think and they have the means to gather the right intel. No way they make decisions with their billions of dollars based on what some social justice warrior reporters and pollster are telling the public.




They’re (Dobbs ‘ report), post election predictions.

Two things a fella might not want to bet against is The FED and Goldman Sachs.


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