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i have a lot of reference books on the carbines' and have torn down a bunch of them for retailers to see how complete they are or mixture of parts so i am not unfamilar with them. I walked into cabella's gun room one day while they had a carbine on a rack, commenting how original it was. they were grading it before putting it on the shelf for sale. I told them it was not an original and they wouldn't believe me, totally overlooking that blue sky stamp on it.
that was when i really started watching what they put out for sale, as in their arrogence they mislabeled stuff and mispriced stuff.
I bought a second year production danish kraig for about 150bucks., not to mention other stuff.
like a s&w model 25 .45 colt in a presentation box for about 500bucks.


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back in the mid nineties, I bought an even dozen. They were a mix of Red Star and Izhmash refurbished. I think they were marked 1950 and 1952. Imported by some company in Harrisburg PA. $65 each. I kept them in their boxes and used just one of them. So so accuracy, nothing special, and did not really excite me.
When barack hussein got elected, I took all 12 to the Orlando Gun Show, and sold them them for $500 each. I could have sold another dozen easily.
I feel they are pretty much useless weapons, but to each his own.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher

I feel they are pretty much useless weapons, but to each his own.

That's a ridiculous statement. They are very ruggedly designed and manufactured, extremely reliable, with lots of excellent practical features. The fact that they aren't target rifles doesn't detract from their value as weapons within the range that modern warfare tactics prioritizes for infantry riflemen, which is mostly within a couple hundred yards, and more typically much nearer.

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I remember the days of the $68 SKS. Wasn't all that excited then. My opinion hasn't changed much.

In these times, a cheap dependable 7.62x39 launcher isn't a bad thing.

That said, if $650-750 is the water mark, I've got better places to put those dollars.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I feel they are pretty much useless weapons, but to each his own.

That's a ridiculous statement. They are very ruggedly designed and manufactured, extremely reliable, with lots of excellent practical features. The fact that they aren't target rifles doesn't detract from their value as weapons within the range that modern warfare tactics prioritizes for infantry riflemen, which is mostly within a couple hundred yards, and more typically much nearer.


They can be much more accurate than the typical ammo available for them will allow. I got very good accuracy from a Chinese SKS by loading .311 diameter 150 grain spitzers over H322.

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A fellow had an SKS out to our silhouette range, this was back in the mid-90's, and after the match we were taking turns plinking with it some. From an elbows on the bench rested position we had no problems hitting the 300 meter pigs with the issue open sights. Since those present were all silhouette shooters and very much into accuracy we were suitably impressed with the little thing. LOP was way too short, that was the only universal complaint.


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Have you seen what beat up British No. 4s are selling for?



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Originally Posted by Mannlicher

I feel they are pretty much useless weapons, but to each his own.

That's a ridiculous statement. They are very ruggedly designed and manufactured, extremely reliable, with lots of excellent practical features. The fact that they aren't target rifles doesn't detract from their value as weapons within the range that modern warfare tactics prioritizes for infantry riflemen, which is mostly within a couple hundred yards, and more typically much nearer.


They can be much more accurate than the typical ammo available for them will allow. I got very good accuracy from a Chinese SKS by loading .311 diameter 150 grain spitzers over H322.

Sure, with fine tuning your ammo, they can be quite accurate.

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Originally Posted by night_owl
Have you seen what beat up British No. 4s are selling for?

No.

how much for one nowadays?


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I feel they are pretty much useless weapons,

Like it or not, it's a battle rifle and an extremely good one. Nothing useless about that.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Have you seen what beat up British No. 4s are selling for?

No.

how much for one nowadays?

Unmolested ones are hitting $800 here in Canada.

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
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Have you seen what beat up British No. 4s are selling for?

No.

how much for one nowadays?

Unmolested ones are hitting $800 here in Canada.

Wow. I used to have several like that, from various periods. I think I paid under a hundred for each. Years later, I sold them all at gun shows for between $350-$400.00 each. That was about ten years ago, I believe.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
back in the mid nineties, I bought an even dozen. They were a mix of Red Star and Izhmash refurbished. I think they were marked 1950 and 1952. Imported by some company in Harrisburg PA. $65 each. I kept them in their boxes and used just one of them. So so accuracy, nothing special, and did not really excite me.
When barack hussein got elected, I took all 12 to the Orlando Gun Show, and sold them them for $500 each. I could have sold another dozen easily.
I feel they are pretty much useless weapons, but to each his own.

Tell that to the dead american marines and soldiers from the korean war and vietnam war shot by an SKS.
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That's a lot of money. I always thought they were ugly and never cared for the 7.62x39. I can see the appeal for a few hundred but for nearly $1,000 why would one chose an SKS over something in the AR family?

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No love for the Mosin?

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Originally Posted by Theeck
That's a lot of money. I always thought they were ugly and never cared for the 7.62x39. I can see the appeal for a few hundred but for nearly $1,000 why would one chose an SKS over something in the AR family?

I think, at this point, it's become much more about the collectability (rarity, historical interest, condition, etc..) than the practical usefulness.

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I have what looks like a factory new Polish-made Mosin carbine with folding bayonet. I paid about a hundred dollars for it. That could serve someone very well for all their big game hunting needs in North America. It's about on par with a .308, ballistically, and has a nice trigger. Naturally, the bayonet would be removed to cut down on weight, if it were to fill that role.

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Chinese SKS's are currently on "special" for $299.99 and $349.99 at PSA.


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They come up on alantic firearms in various condition grades and prices every so often also.

Lots of em getting hawked at gunshows.
Lotta milsurp pistol deals on alantic also.

Showing up at gunshows.

Both marked up 150 to 300 bucks or more.

Get kinda a chuckle when ya casually look at one and dude starts chiming in about.
Blah blah blah rare
Blah blah blah hard to find
Blah blah blah i can drop 25 bucks off it.

And you can see the importer markings decsribed on various websites.

Just walk away from em acting like ya didnt hear a word said.

Fugging weasels.........

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