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Originally Posted by hatari
"Why are Blacks 5x More Likely to be stopped and arrested than Whites" - the answer



The truth of the matter & the really, really simple answer is that Blacks commit (at least) 5x more crimes, per capita, that all other races combined.

So, yes, they are going to be likely to get caught 5x more times as well.

The want zero ownership or responsibility for their actions; they want all other to fall to their total lack of honesty, corruption, savagery, lack of integrity, lack of responsibility (for anything, including their kids) & their tribal ways so that we will just accept their actions as normal.

Fu^ck 'em......................time for the 87% to stop allowing the 13% to make all the rules.

Scan through this video, below, if you want to puke & be thoroughly disgusted...............Michigan's guv'nr crying racism about C-19 & listen carefully the the Lt. guv, who is definitely a flat out & unabashed racist himself, & all the rest of her totally incompetent staff.

Allowing these people position of authority is akin to committing suicide.

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I remember a time in 1970 a friend of mine from home and I headed to DC to spend a few days with one of his friends before he went to his new Job at the NSA and I was heading to my last 6 months in the USAF in Dover Delaware. We spent a few days on our own seeing DC. His buddy made sure which bus to ride on to get to where we were going and at what times to get home before dark.. He said"now do what I say, or don't go". He also informed us to make sure to not leave anything in the car before we even went into his apt. when we got there.
All went well while following his instructions. One day we walked to a corner drug store to pick up some things and the white owner was a nice guy and friendly but he had to excuse himself several times to herd the black kids (pretty young) to the cash register to pay, and lock the door until he let the other kids out. (I think he knew all of their names and was very nice to them, and they liked him) . He explained to George and I that was just the way it was. They would steal him blind if he didn't.
All I can say, is I wouldn't have believed any of that if hadn't have experienced it.
I will say, that I have never had any problems with the Native Americans in Billings and never felt threatened by any of them. I would have gone anywhere on the South Side of Billings at any time of day up until not too many years ago, now since drugs, blacks, and gangs(?) , I definitely won't go there, day or night. --unarmed that is!

Never in my life did I think it would come to this.

Just venting,
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Originally Posted by kennymauser
I remember a time in 1970 a friend of mine from home and I headed to DC to spend a few days with one of his friends before he went to his new Job at the NSA and I was heading to my last 6 months in the USAF in Dover Delaware. We spent a few days on our own seeing DC. His buddy made sure which bus to ride on to get to where we were going and at what times to get home before dark.. He said"now do what I say, or don't go". He also informed us to make sure to not leave anything in the car before we even went into his apt. when we got there.
All went well while following his instructions. One day we walked to a corner drug store to pick up some things and the white owner was a nice guy and friendly but he had to excuse himself several times to herd the black kids (pretty young) to the cash register to pay, and lock the door until he let the other kids out. (I think he knew all of their names and was very nice to them, and they liked him) . He explained to George and I that was just the way it was. They would steal him blind if he didn't.
All I can say, is I wouldn't have believed any of that if hadn't have experienced it.
I will say, that I have never had any problems with the Native Americans in Billings and never felt threatened by any of them. I would have gone anywhere on the South Side of Billings at any time of day up until not too many years ago, now since drugs, blacks, and gangs(?) , I definitely won't go there, day or night. --unarmed that is!

Never in my life did I think it would come to this.

Just venting,
Ken


Why in fugg would anybody stay there to run a business like that? Later on when they get looted and the shop is burned to the ground there’ll be the inevitable interview with the shop owner expressing his grief and surprise that it happened.

Reminds me of the people that live in flood plains then cry when their place gets inundated.

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Originally Posted by hatari
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If I recall correctly, native American societies were somewhat the same way. If someone needed or wanted something a tribe-mate had, or another tribe had for that matter, they just took it. Not much of a private property ethic in those days, more of a share and share alike mentality with frequent potlatches. In the absence of government assistance programs, the impulse to share with one's neighbors is admirable; unfortunately, it has devolved into the entitlement mentality not only towards government largesse, but also toward other people's property. Certainly not compatible with concepts of private property, as you point out.



Someone here on the 'Fire not many months ago familiar with Native America culture had a different take on it. He wrote that in whatever Native America tribe he was familiar with, that anything was fair game, and if you weren't strong enough to protect your property or your woman, then F you, you are a pussy and deserved to get taken advantage of because you were weak. The strong took whatever they wanted. That is how tribal heirarchy ws established.

The Scandinavian culture has a stronger share and share alike tradition from what I've read, which goes with the traditional social liberalism that has been a stable in the upper midwest.


That may be a better way to interpret it. Either way, it seems to have a lot of parallels in the black communities. Of course, the scourge of drugs has exacerbated the problem quite a bit as well.


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Originally Posted by hatari

Someone here on the 'Fire not many months ago familiar with Native America culture had a different take on it. He wrote that in whatever Native America tribe he was familiar with, that anything was fair game, and if you weren't strong enough to protect your property or your woman, then F you, you are a pussy and deserved to get taken advantage of because you were weak.


Seems like a gross generalization if we're speaking of the past, but then I’m just a White guy who read a lot of books. But generalizing on my own hook the basis for most Indian societies was the extended family;your siblings, first second and third cousins, in-laws, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces etc. So its not like you were facing the world alone. Conversely, if you decided to screw with some guy you weren’t just messing with him, you were messing with his whole family

Tied into that a tremendous amount of social prestige associated with gift-giving, sharing and generosity. I forget which trader observed that a good rifle might change hands five times in a year, gifted each time. The old saw is largely true: Amongst Americans their leaders were their richest men, amongst Indians their leaders were their poorest.

We also know that respect and leadership positions were usually earned rather than inherited, which indicates the power of public opinion and peer pressure within the tribe. Couple that with the concept that when you are surrounded by enemies, the goodwill and cooperation of all the extended families within the tribe was essential. Hence the “rules” directed theft killing and violence outwards.

Stealing of a rival’s wife of course did occur, but what is usually overlooked is that those wives left of their own free will. In the East at least, the wife owned most of the material goods AND the kids and enjoyed considerable freedom in choosing partners, to end a marriage all she had to do was put his things outside the door. If she did that too easily however,.she would run afoul of gossip and public opinion, even worse if the rejected husband committed suicide and/or purposefully got himself killed in war. Long story short,divorce rates of around 50% were about the same as our modern rate in the US.

As fpr the modern day, seems like there's "suburban reservations" back East, and the ones everybody writes bad things about in the West.

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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
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I remember a time in 1970 a friend of mine from home and I headed to DC to spend a few days with one of his friends before he went to his new Job at the NSA and I was heading to my last 6 months in the USAF in Dover Delaware. We spent a few days on our own seeing DC. His buddy made sure which bus to ride on to get to where we were going and at what times to get home before dark.. He said"now do what I say, or don't go". He also informed us to make sure to not leave anything in the car before we even went into his apt. when we got there.
All went well while following his instructions. One day we walked to a corner drug store to pick up some things and the white owner was a nice guy and friendly but he had to excuse himself several times to herd the black kids (pretty young) to the cash register to pay, and lock the door until he let the other kids out. (I think he knew all of their names and was very nice to them, and they liked him) . He explained to George and I that was just the way it was. They would steal him blind if he didn't.
All I can say, is I wouldn't have believed any of that if hadn't have experienced it.
I will say, that I have never had any problems with the Native Americans in Billings and never felt threatened by any of them. I would have gone anywhere on the South Side of Billings at any time of day up until not too many years ago, now since drugs, blacks, and gangs(?) , I definitely won't go there, day or night. --unarmed that is!

Never in my life did I think it would come to this.

Just venting,
Ken


Why in fugg would anybody stay there to run a business like that? Later on when they get looted and the shop is burned to the ground there’ll be the inevitable interview with the shop owner expressing his grief and surprise that it happened.

Reminds me of the people that live in flood plains then cry when their place gets inundated.

Well, he was under the impression he was dealing with humans, like I would have been also. That's when I thought I was living in America! !!

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Originally Posted by kennymauser
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by kennymauser
I remember a time in 1970 a friend of mine from home and I headed to DC to spend a few days with one of his friends before he went to his new Job at the NSA and I was heading to my last 6 months in the USAF in Dover Delaware. We spent a few days on our own seeing DC. His buddy made sure which bus to ride on to get to where we were going and at what times to get home before dark.. He said"now do what I say, or don't go". He also informed us to make sure to not leave anything in the car before we even went into his apt. when we got there.
All went well while following his instructions. One day we walked to a corner drug store to pick up some things and the white owner was a nice guy and friendly but he had to excuse himself several times to herd the black kids (pretty young) to the cash register to pay, and lock the door until he let the other kids out. (I think he knew all of their names and was very nice to them, and they liked him) . He explained to George and I that was just the way it was. They would steal him blind if he didn't.
All I can say, is I wouldn't have believed any of that if hadn't have experienced it.
I will say, that I have never had any problems with the Native Americans in Billings and never felt threatened by any of them. I would have gone anywhere on the South Side of Billings at any time of day up until not too many years ago, now since drugs, blacks, and gangs(?) , I definitely won't go there, day or night. --unarmed that is!

Never in my life did I think it would come to this.

Just venting,
Ken


Why in fugg would anybody stay there to run a business like that? Later on when they get looted and the shop is burned to the ground there’ll be the inevitable interview with the shop owner expressing his grief and surprise that it happened.

Reminds me of the people that live in flood plains then cry when their place gets inundated.

Well, he was under the impression he was dealing with humans, like I would have been also. That's when I thought I was living in America! !!


Be that as it may, if I constantly worried about being ripped off to the point that I had to escort people in and out of my shop and lock the door, I would find another place to do business.

That’s just me, YMMV...

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Because they didnt morph fast enough and missed the classes instructing them how to avoid LEO run-ins?


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Blacks at least 5x commit more crime, and more violent crime in particular, than whites. That statistic isn't from arrest reports or convictions; but rather, it is from victim and eye-witness statements. Young black males age 16-24 commit over half the murders in the US according to eye-witnesses and arrest reports. They are a small percentage of the 12-13% of the population of the US that is "black", yet they commit more than half the murders. Racism is horseshit anyway, since all people show preference for their own group, however that group is defined. And trying to drum racism out of white people has just made them more willing victims of non-white criminals.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Blacks at least 5x commit more crime, and more violent crime in particular, than whites. That statistic isn't from arrest reports or convictions; but rather, it is from victim and eye-witness statements. Young black males age 16-24 commit over half the murders in the US according to eye-witnesses and arrest reports. They are a small percentage of the 12-13% of the population of the US that is "black", yet they commit more than half the murders. Racism is horseshit anyway, since all people show preference for their own group, however that group is defined. And trying to drum racism out of white people has just made them more willing victims of non-white criminals.


I don't believe in all this “systemic racism” BS for a minute.

Ask yourself this: How many folks on this very site would refuse to lend a hand or befriend a black person who had a proven track record of being a decent person? Even among this crowd - whom I’m sure would be labeled rabidly racist by any progressive standard - I would be willing to bet the number of actual racists is very small.

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Lot of nonsense here.


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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Blacks at least 5x commit more crime, and more violent crime in particular, than whites. That statistic isn't from arrest reports or convictions; but rather, it is from victim and eye-witness statements. Young black males age 16-24 commit over half the murders in the US according to eye-witnesses and arrest reports. They are a small percentage of the 12-13% of the population of the US that is "black", yet they commit more than half the murders. Racism is horseshit anyway, since all people show preference for their own group, however that group is defined. And trying to drum racism out of white people has just made them more willing victims of non-white criminals.


I don't believe in all this “systemic racism” BS for a minute.

Ask yourself this: How many folks on this very site would refuse to lend a hand or befriend a black person who had a proven track record of being a decent person? Even among this crowd - whom I’m sure would be labeled rabidly racist by any progressive standard - I would be willing to bet the number of actual racists is very small.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Blacks at least 5x commit more crime, and more violent crime in particular, than whites. That statistic isn't from arrest reports or convictions; but rather, it is from victim and eye-witness statements. Young black males age 16-24 commit over half the murders in the US according to eye-witnesses and arrest reports. They are a small percentage of the 12-13% of the population of the US that is "black", yet they commit more than half the murders. Racism is horseshit anyway, since all people show preference for their own group, however that group is defined. And trying to drum racism out of white people has just made them more willing victims of non-white criminals.


I don't believe in all this “systemic racism” BS for a minute.

Ask yourself this: How many folks on this very site would refuse to lend a hand or befriend a black person who had a proven track record of being a decent person? Even among this crowd - whom I’m sure would be labeled rabidly racist by any progressive standard - I would be willing to bet the number of actual racists is very small.


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Forget the whole gang spin on why they are stopped more often and look at the FBI statistics.

They comprise 13% of the population

They are responsible for 80% of all crime

They are responsible for 88% of all violent crime

They comprise 48% of the prison population ( I think they've been given a break on that one..)


WTF else do you need to know?


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Forget the whole gang spin on why they are stopped more often and look at the FBI statistics.

They comprise 13% of the population

They are responsible for 80% of all crime

They are responsible for 88% of all violent crime

They comprise 48% of the prison population ( I think they've been given a break on that one..)


WTF else do you need to know?


When you don’t like what the statistics are telling you, you discredit the statistics.

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Originally Posted by hatari


Lighten up 'Flave, sometimes metaphors and figurative language are used to make a dry subject a little more interesting. The point is Blacks are 5x more likely to get arrested is because they are up to more sh it. Like that better? Not every post can be a magnum opus cited and referenced. This is the Campfire. Sit around and shoot the sh it.


They're 5X's more likely to be arrested because they live in welfare sustained ghettos that were created by the left wing fugk tards that are destroying our country.

It has little or nothing to do with color and I wish people on the right would stop "explaining" that it's a race issue. Because it isn't.

That being said, enjoy the conversation. Echo chambers are the lifeblood of the internet.


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Originally Posted by deflave


They're 5X's more likely to be arrested because they live in welfare sustained ghettos that were created by the left wing fugk tards that are destroying our country.

It has little or nothing to do with color and I wish people on the right would stop "explaining" that it's a race issue. Because it isn't.



Yes, generally that's fairly true as far as it goes.

So, then, given all the opportunity & preferential treatment, especially since 1964, why have they not broken out of that mold & those ghettos, to be the sterling & shining citizens of the country?

Serious question.......................

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The real cause is the ghetto gangster culture. The root of it is the welfare system which provides increased benefits as women turn out more babies. Those who embrace this evil culture are largely black. They refuse to earn an educated because ignorance is easier. They refuse to work for a living because it’s too hard. They refuse to obey the law because crime is easier. It’s past time to end welfare for able bodied adults and reduce it for children.



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When my boy was very young he went through a period of time where he got in a lot of trouble with mom and I, one day he is having a meltdown and yells at me "I just want you to be proud of me"

I just simply said "Then do things that make me proud of you".

It really is that simple no matter if your White, Black, Yella, or Brown. Sadly some never catch on.


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I'll try and keep it simple- they commit more crime.


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