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Lighten up 'Flave, sometimes metaphors and figurative language are used to make a dry subject a little more interesting. The point is Blacks are 5x more likely to get arrested is because they are up to more sh it. Like that better? Not every post can be a magnum opus cited and referenced. This is the Campfire. Sit around and shoot the sh it.


They're 5X's more likely to be arrested because they live in welfare sustained ghettos that were created by the left wing fugk tards that are destroying our country.

It has little or nothing to do with color and I wish people on the right would stop "explaining" that it's a race issue. Because it isn't.

That being said, enjoy the conversation. Echo chambers are the lifeblood of the internet.



Wrong. Socioeconomic status has nothing to do with it. "Welfare sustained ghettos" have nothing to do with it. There are endless reasons why these are horseshit talking points.

There are more whites in poverty living in trailer parks than there are blacks living in "welfare sustained ghettos". So why the vast distinction in crime stats? You imagine there are more cops policing ghettos than trailer trash? You imagine a lot of schitt here.

There are real differences in IQ between groups and real differences in brain structure between groups. There are real differences in impulse control between groups. There are real differences in aggressive behavior between groups. By "groups", I mean distinct races of humans. These are measurable and have been measured repeatedly for over 100 years.

Stop spouting democrat talking points to try to impugn democrat policies. It's retarded, and you are ignorant.


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if blacks changed, the democratic party would desolve. the dems need them to be what they are. so getting arrested in a way helps the cause for blacks to stay in the spotlight.


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The real cause is the Great Society and the advent of all similar such programs that followed. If they, and by "they" I mean leftists, want to blame white people, as far as I'm concerned, they can do so in pointing their fingers, not at slavery; rather, at social engineering by the political left. Really? Social programs were created that would allow payments only if there was not a man in the home?! Jeez! Get real. The only institutional racism that exists is government interference which perpetuates a dependent class under the pretense of compassion. The U.S. government has created a downhill snow-ball effect from which we may never recover. Leftists just continue to demand more of the same. Dependent people, whether they be white, red or black, get pandered to and never see the truth of the system that truly is their enemy. Now, to remedy it, they feel we need to balkanize ourselves rather than maintaining a once great culture.


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They are what they are. They behave the same anywhere they are in the world. It's painfully obvious. Has nothing to do with slavery, "democratic policies", welfare, or any such else.

Are there good, decent black individuals? Sure. But on the whole?

Even Heathcliff Huxtable turned out to be a rapist....

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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
There are real differences in IQ between groups and real differences in brain structure between groups. There are real differences in impulse control between groups. There are real differences in aggressive behavior between groups. By "groups", I mean distinct races of humans. These are measurable and have been measured repeatedly for over 100 years.



That is what no one on either side ever wants to talk about, and it is the main reason that the majority of Blacks are what they are. They are as different from the White race as day is from night. It's just what it is. Poverty is the excuse that the ignorant people like to use. I have known many poor Whites, and while they may not have been the best people in the community, they came nowhere close to committing the number of crimes that the Blacks did.

In the past 50 years or so, this country has spent billions and billions of money trying to help Black, leveling the playing field, so to speak, and it hasn't done one damn bit of good. They are, in many ways in worse shape now than then. Most of you want to blame the Democrats, and while they are not entirely blameless, the fact is that the majority of Blacks don't want to change, they want to keep on being who and what they are, and having us pay for it.

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It all comes down to behavior.
Drinking,drugs,committing crimes and not following police commands don't help either.
They want the police to change their behavior,but nothing is ever said about the blacks changing their behavior.


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The real cause is the Great Society and the advent of all similar such programs that followed. If they, and by "they" I mean leftists, want to blame white people, as far as I'm concerned, they can do so in pointing their fingers, not at slavery; rather, at social engineering by the political left. Really? Social programs were created that would allow payments only if there was not a man in the home?! Jeez! Get real. The only institutional racism that exists is government interference which perpetuates a dependent class under the pretense of compassion. The U.S. government has created a downhill snow-ball effect from which we may never recover. Leftists just continue to demand more of the same. Dependent people, whether they be white, red or black, get pandered to and never see the truth of the system that truly is their enemy. Now, to remedy it, they feel we need to balkanize ourselves rather than maintaining a once great culture.



While the Democrats are not entirely blameless, the fact remains that Blacks are what they are, and are always going to be that. They should be better off after having all that money spent on them................right? But they're not, because they don't intend to change who and what they are, and they don't have the DNA and IQ in them to improve their situation.

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Stupid Millennials are asking "Why is it that African Americans are 5x more likely to be arrested than Whites and isn't that institutional racism?"


The answer is urban gangs (and stupidity). Black youth joining the Bloods, the Crips, the Black Mafia Family, the Gangsta Disciples etc.

They get recruited as young teens, get busted and do time. In prison, gang affiliation is mandatory! They get out, better organized, better, trained, and better networked to go right back into the drug, gun, extortion trade.


Hispanic gangs are even more brutal, but they hide behind a language barrier, keep a lower profile, and don't tend to do stupid sh it like shoplift some Swisher Sweets and Schlitz Malt liquor, roll up a blunt and walk down the middle of the street screaming "F You!" at some cop that drives by. (The stupidity part of the equation. See Ferguson)

White gangs are called the Italian Mafia. They are in the same business. They don't walk down the middle of the street smoking weed and drawing attention to themselves. White gangs are called the Hell's Angles, or Bandidos, or The Outlaws. Again, they don't call attention to themselves. They don't shoplift at the convenience store, they don't confront the cops and they don't normally wack rival gang members just for the hell of it. Hell's Angel's aren't holding up spectators going to a MLB or NFL game. They don't roll middle aged White couples in town for a nice dinner.

The Italian Mafia isn't into petty theft. They aren't breaking and entering just to grab a bottle of booze and some smoke. They keep their activities as "under the radar" as possible. Joey Pistone ain't smashing a car window he just walked by to grap the laptop out of the backseat, just because he sees it.

That's why Blacks are 5x more likely to get arrested.

So if you ever get asked that question by some Lefty, you can hit them with that.



You see, thanks for that. All this time I thought it was just because lower limbs on the evolutionary tree get trimmed first.


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So if you ever get asked that question by some Lefty, you can hit them with that.



You see, thanks for that. All this time I thought it was just because lower limbs on the evolutionary tree get trimmed first.
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Of course, you're right, but that won't blunt their argument. If you point out they join gangs - especially because they have no male role models in their lives- and turn to crime 10x more than whites, the lightbulb might come on for a few... (or probably not.) wink


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Blavks are super violent wherever in the world they end up. It aint the ghetto that causes violent bkacks. Its the violent bkacks causing the ghetto.


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From what I’ve seen in Detroit and St Thomas, USVI, it’s a lack of a responsible father figure. To put it nicely, the male has a child or two and then leaves.

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It is a race issue.

When things are good and everybody is just going about day-to-day, there are no problems.

But when something goes wrong or times get a little tough, blacks will throw the race card. It's inevitable.

When things break down, the lines naturally form by identifiable features, the most identifiable of which is race.


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Take 500 White people, randomly, and drop them on a deserted island, way away from everywhere. How would they fare? In a short time, leaders would arise, they would organize themselves and begin building a new society. Buildings, government, division of labor. Water would be sourced, and some form of agriculture would begin. Boats and ships would be built to explore or even escape. Probably all within a few months. Oh, there might be some power struggles or some such, but they'd do fine.

A similar result would occur with a group of Asians (well, perhaps not quite so successful, unless they were all Japanese...)

Take 500 black people and put them in the same situation. Within a week, all the women would have been raped, and half the men. Any intelligent leadership that might arise would be brutalized by the rest. Within a couple weeks (or less), half would be dead, and cannibalized by the rest. If any of them managed to survive more than a month, it would be a miracle. To think that Wakanda would arise, is foolishness in the extreme.

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Originally Posted by Old Ornery
From what I’ve seen in Detroit and St Thomas, USVI, it’s a lack of a responsible father figure. To put it nicely, the male has a child or two and then leaves.


I hear that all the time. That growing up in a household without a father figure is a major reason and I agree to an extent. But then the obvious must be considered; which is; how does having a father figure stick around help anything if he himself is a giant POS?

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How was the crime rate and incarceration rate of blacks before 1960s compared to other races...

Why did it suddenly increase 400% more compared to any other race... after the civil rights movement.


Suddenly they stopped being afraid of the police?

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I remember a time in 1970 a friend of mine from home and I headed to DC to spend a few days with one of his friends before he went to his new Job at the NSA and I was heading to my last 6 months in the USAF in Dover Delaware. We spent a few days on our own seeing DC. His buddy made sure which bus to ride on to get to where we were going and at what times to get home before dark.. He said"now do what I say, or don't go". He also informed us to make sure to not leave anything in the car before we even went into his apt. when we got there.
All went well while following his instructions. One day we walked to a corner drug store to pick up some things and the white owner was a nice guy and friendly but he had to excuse himself several times to herd the black kids (pretty young) to the cash register to pay, and lock the door until he let the other kids out. (I think he knew all of their names and was very nice to them, and they liked him) . He explained to George and I that was just the way it was. They would steal him blind if he didn't.
All I can say, is I wouldn't have believed any of that if hadn't have experienced it.
I will say, that I have never had any problems with the Native Americans in Billings and never felt threatened by any of them. I would have gone anywhere on the South Side of Billings at any time of day up until not too many years ago, now since drugs, blacks, and gangs(?) , I definitely won't go there, day or night. --unarmed that is!

Never in my life did I think it would come to this.

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Why in fugg would anybody stay there to run a business like that? Later on when they get looted and the shop is burned to the ground there’ll be the inevitable interview with the shop owner expressing his grief and surprise that it happened.

Reminds me of the people that live in flood plains then cry when their place gets inundated.



Let's see,
He had owned the business for quite awhile.
The neighborhood slowly turned sour, and it lost value.
So, he was making good money, as pharmacists usually do,
But if he sold it, he couldn't get squat.

So. Kinda stuck there. Or start over, [bleep] deep in debt as an older dude.

Excatly why many people stick in declining neighborhoods.


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Originally Posted by hatari
Stupid Millennials are asking "Why is it that African Americans are 5x more likely to be arrested than Whites and isn't that institutional racism?"


The answer is urban gangs (and stupidity). Black youth joining the Bloods, the Crips, the Black Mafia Family, the Gangsta Disciples etc.

They get recruited as young teens, get busted and do time. In prison, gang affiliation is mandatory! They get out, better organized, better, trained, and better networked to go right back into the drug, gun, extortion trade.


Hispanic gangs are even more brutal, but they hide behind a language barrier, keep a lower profile, and don't tend to do stupid sh it like shoplift some Swisher Sweets and Schlitz Malt liquor, roll up a blunt and walk down the middle of the street screaming "F You!" at some cop that drives by. (The stupidity part of the equation. See Ferguson)

White gangs are called the Italian Mafia. They are in the same business. They don't walk down the middle of the street smoking weed and drawing attention to themselves. White gangs are called the Hell's Angles, or Bandidos, or The Outlaws. Again, they don't call attention to themselves. They don't shoplift at the convenience store, they don't confront the cops and they don't normally wack rival gang members just for the hell of it. Hell's Angel's aren't holding up spectators going to a MLB or NFL game. They don't roll middle aged White couples in town for a nice dinner.

The Italian Mafia isn't into petty theft. They aren't breaking and entering just to grab a bottle of booze and some smoke. They keep their activities as "under the radar" as possible. Joey Pistone ain't smashing a car window he just walked by to grap the laptop out of the backseat, just because he sees it.

That's why Blacks are 5x more likely to get arrested.

So if you ever get asked that question by some Lefty, you can hit them with that.

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Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Blacks want our perception of them to change without any change in behavior on their part. Doesn't work that way.



Brings up a point slightly off my original topic but goes with yours. There is somehow a universal problem with Blacks respecting other peoples property. Bush Africans are an exception (or were). I don't care if it's in Atlanta, NYC, Chicago, if it is McIntosh, Alabama, Jamaica, RSA, or Cameroon. If it is not nailed down, it's gone in 60 seconds.
If they could clean that up, the entire image of race wold be substantially altered.
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Originally Posted by Stophel
Take 500 White people, randomly, and drop them on a deserted island, way away from everywhere. How would they fare? In a short time, leaders would arise, they would organize themselves and begin building a new society. Buildings, government, division of labor. Water would be sourced, and some form of agriculture would begin. Boats and ships would be built to explore or even escape. Probably all within a few months. Oh, there might be some power struggles or some such, but they'd do fine.

A similar result would occur with a group of Asians (well, perhaps not quite so successful, unless they were all Japanese...)

Take 500 black people and put them in the same situation. Within a week, all the women would have been raped, and half the men. Any intelligent leadership that might arise would be brutalized by the rest. Within a couple weeks (or less), half would be dead, and cannibalized by the rest. If any of them managed to survive more than a month, it would be a miracle. To think that Wakanda would arise, is foolishness in the extreme.

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