I recall a teaching given many years ago. The discussion centered on folks, kinda like yourself....who are seemingly anti-Jesus .... “to the max” You know you show up on every “Christian” theme discussion and you do your best to deny, cast doubt and generally denigrate Jesus and his followers. You are clearly highly motivated in your endeavors.
Anyway, this teacher was of the opinion that likely there were two possible motivations..... the first was that a person had been so resistant to the idea of sin, repentance, seeking forgiveness..... for so long, that the Holy Spirit simply did not visit any more and the individual knew .... that somehow, God had left him and so did his best to convince himself that not only was there no God. But, if there was, it was most certainly not any “Jesus”:involved. The Bible refers to this condition as having a “reprobate mind.” God left and the individual knows it.
The second case is similar but yet different. The Holy Spirit is indeed dealing with you, perhaps every day. The Spirit is stirring you up and spurring you on to get to a point of acknowledgement or surrender.... to a point where the rebellious one finally exhausts himself and turns to:the Lord,
Anyway, it was an interesting teaching and I do not know if it has any application to you. This is your struggle. The outcome has yet to be decided.
I will follow up with a story about a guy I worked with.... a number of years ago. You remind me of him.
Edit to add: A God botherer? Well put me out of your misery and set me on ignore!
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The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
TF, then there are those who spend their life trying to punish GOD because of some percieved slight. Perhaps a parent or friend or other close relative or pet died and so the person vowed to try and lead others from Christ by pointing out their percieved cruelties of HIM on Christians or percieved Inconstincies in HIS word in order to slap HIM in the face.
We have a few of those on the Fire who are in danger of everlasting fire.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
Don was a maintenance planner at a mine a worked at. Pretty good guy, competent in his job ..... but always on edge.... always unhappy and seemingly looking for something to complain about. Kinda like a “dissatisfied rebel” but not having any real cause or banner to take up. Don was also very much anti-Christian.
At age 37, Don got married for the first time.... by all accounts to a very good gal. They had been married only a couple of months when Don began to have small seizures. He was diagnosed with brain cancer. He continued to work and we were all impressed with how he was holding everything together..... but his attitude took a real turn when he was told It was inoperable....grew like a “spiderweb” in his brain. Don was gone for awhile and then returned to work.... a new man.... his new wife somehow witnessed to him, took to church...whatever, I really don’t know how it happened but Don was a new man.
He only worked another couple of weeks, but was telling everybody about his wonderful wife and his wonderful savior. No more angry, bitter rebel, just peaceful. Somber on some days, but often with a peaceful smile. He died just a few weeks after his last day at work.
Don had a thing or two to tell us..... 37 years wasted, 37:years of rejecting God....(btw, he used a completely inappropriate term to describe his treatment of Jesus, but after all, this was a mine filled with rough men). .....then a new wife and a bright future, then dismay with the prospect of loss and his impending death.... then....Joy. He said God got his attention and while he didn’t like the idea of dying so young, he called the cancer a blessing....a gift from the Lord to set him straight.
By all accounts, he died peacefully and in victory.
From the time of his marriage to his death was only 5-6 months.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
Edit to add: A God botherer? Well put me out of your misery and set me on ignore!
Seems you don't recall that you told the CF you had Starman (and others) on 'ignore'
IF your word was worth anything, Starman would still be on ignore and you would not have seen the post about Wabi you took issue with.
You took Starman off ignore and now you even tangle with him /follow him around in true God botherer fashion.
You can't buy that kind of stupid, it's got to be a natural gift... 😂
Its becoming apparent you have some distinct Lack or disability in you congintive faculties.
Yep. Id say youre mad. Since when can one not change their mind and take someone off ignore and point out their inaccuracies? Maybe Rick has a reason for providing that ability.
That reminds me, why did I take you off ignore in the second place. Well, I can and will rectify that problem now.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
Edit to add: A God botherer? Well put me out of your misery and set me on ignore!
Seems you don't recall that you told the CF you had Starman (and others) on 'ignore'
IF your word was worth anything, Starman would still be on ignore and you would not have seen the post about Wabi you took issue with.
You took Starman off ignore and now you even tangle with him /follow him around in true God botherer fashion.
You can't buy that kind of stupid, it's got to be a natural gift... 😂
Its becoming apparent you have some distinct Lack or disability in you congnitive faculties.
Well, as usual, you are wrong again. I never had you on ignore. You just made that up,or,your memory is just plain faulty. I just took a break from responding to you and DBT. That is what I said and what I posted.
So, you are in error about me putting you on ignore.....and go ahead and question “my word.“
Do you see why one would choose not to respond to you?
Meh.....
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
That reminds me, why did I take you off ignore in the second place
You and TF49 best stay in the safe space ignore bunker.. but the two of you can't keep your word on that.
TF49 came out of his ignore bunker then gets his fragile feelings hurt, and wants to blame others for his choices.
Sadly he's all over the shop, flip-flop indecisive, . in and out of the bunker, then John 15:18 was so important to him that he has to mention it, then it becomes inconvenient to him so he calls it a mere distraction tactic by me... 😂
He's a scatter brain. His rational mind congnitive faculties are a mess.
all he has is unsubstantiated accusations, mythological scripture and other long winded irrelevant stories he thinks are relevant on an Evolution topic.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
TF, then there are those who spend their life trying to punish GOD because of some percieved slight. Perhaps a parent or friend or other close relative or pet died and so the person vowed to try and lead others from Christ by pointing out their percieved cruelties of HIM on Christians or percieved Inconstincies in HIS word in order to slap HIM in the face.
We have a few of those on the Fire who are in danger of everlasting fire.
Punish God? That's hard to do when we have no evidence for His/Her/Its existence. A God should have no trouble making Its presence known.
TF, then there are those who spend their life trying to punish GOD because of some percieved slight. Perhaps a parent or friend or other close relative or pet died and so the person vowed to try and lead others from Christ by pointing out their percieved cruelties of HIM on Christians or percieved Inconstincies in HIS word in order to slap HIM in the face.
We have a few of those on the Fire who are in danger of everlasting fire.
Punish God? That's hard to do when we have no evidence for His/Her/Its existence. A God should have no trouble making Its presence known.
Whether there is or not, that is the intent of many. There is no requirement that someone have scientific proof, to believe and subsequently love or, as in your or AS's case, hate.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
Intelligent design was put on trial, but its supporters failed to make a case.
Thanks for reading the post link
The behaviour of magnetic fields, quantum, shell spirals, snowflake patterns, etc, etc, have nothing to do with design. Physics being the shaper and former of the Universe on every scale, gravity, strong force, weak force, EM, etc.
TF, then there are those who spend their life trying to punish GOD because of some percieved slight. Perhaps a parent or friend or other close relative or pet died and so the person vowed to try and lead others from Christ by pointing out their percieved cruelties of HIM on Christians or percieved Inconstincies in HIS word in order to slap HIM in the face.
We have a few of those on the Fire who are in danger of everlasting fire.
Punish God? That's hard to do when we have no evidence for His/Her/Its existence. A God should have no trouble making Its presence known.
Whether there is or not, that is the intent of many. There is no requirement that someone have scientific proof, to believe and subsequently love or, as in your or AS's case, hate.
I have no hate. That accusation is used as a means of defending faith. To question is not to hate. To question and enquire is a sign of a willingness to understand.
