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I lived through the original AWB. I only owned a 6601 Colt and a Glock 9mm at the time but I remember Magazines going crazy and preban rifles at least doubling, be imports triple or better.
So if they somehow get a ban that looks like the last one, what would be an ideal ban proof gun?
Mini 14, AUG, Tavor, M1A?


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Ruger Mini 14 With a little tinkering the magazine capacity can be upsized and a few stashed away in a piece of PVC pipe and stored under the flower garden for "emergencies". If semi-autos in general get banned, a Mauser 98 with a 20-round "trench" magazine would come in handy. It takes about 30 seconds to swap from the 5 round internal mag to the high capacity one.


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Bans are for those who follow the law. That is no longer required in this country (assuming you're the right skin color).

But I suspect the next AWB will be extremely draconian and there won't be any easily applied loopholes to use (e.g., a bullet button or going with a pre-ban). California, unfortunately, learned many of the ways people got around the ban and that experience will lead those in D.C. who take their marching orders from the CA leftists to adopt a national ban similar to what is in CA. I also predict that they will simply do away with the protections afforded to already existing/owned weapons and will require you to sell them to the govt or destroy them. And, of course, there will be similar treatment for magazines, parts and ammo.

So I think the way around the next AWB is to simply refuse to comply with it, learn how to build your own parts, start reloading (if you don't already), stock up on components and have patience, since the country as it has existed to this point won't exist soon.

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Currently threaded muzzles are trendy, stay away from them if you can.

I recently purchased a Ruger PC carbine, fine gun, but it came with a threaded muzzle, without which feature and with 10 round Glock magazines it would actually be legal in NY State when I visit family (fuggin Cuomo’s “Safe Act” mad)

Ruger does make a “State Legal” version without the threaded muzzle, all sold out at this point in time.


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Hacksaw will fix the threaded end.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Currently threaded muzzles are trendy, stay away from them if you can.

I recently purchased a Ruger PC carbine, fine gun, but it came with a threaded muzzle, without which feature and with 10 round Glock magazines it would actually be legal in NY State when I visit family (fuggin Cuomo’s “Safe Act” mad)

Ruger does make a “State Legal” version without the threaded muzzle, all sold out at this point in time.

Thought the flash hinder just had to be pinned?


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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Currently threaded muzzles are trendy, stay away from them if you can.

I recently purchased a Ruger PC carbine, fine gun, but it came with a threaded muzzle, without which feature and with 10 round Glock magazines it would actually be legal in NY State when I visit family (fuggin Cuomo’s “Safe Act” mad)

Ruger does make a “State Legal” version without the threaded muzzle, all sold out at this point in time.

Thought the flash hinder just had to be pinned?
You can put a thread protector on and pin/spot weld it to be legal.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Currently threaded muzzles are trendy, stay away from them if you can.

I recently purchased a Ruger PC carbine, fine gun, but it came with a threaded muzzle, without which feature and with 10 round Glock magazines it would actually be legal in NY State when I visit family (fuggin Cuomo’s “Safe Act” mad)

Ruger does make a “State Legal” version without the threaded muzzle, all sold out at this point in time.

Thought the flash hinder just had to be pinned?
You can put a thread protector on and pin/spot weld it to be legal.


Great to know, tks cool I was just gonna have the threaded section cut off and the barrel crowned, but as is the barrel is 16.12”, remove the threaded part and it would be under 16”.


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Originally Posted by T LEE
Hacksaw will fix the threaded end.


T!! 🙂. Great to see you post again! 😎

16.12” on the barrel, they didn’t leave enough barrel to legally remove the threaded part.


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Pin on a fake supressor then and really freak them out! smile smile


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When we buy ammo, reloading supplies, magazines, parts, etc with a credit card I really believe it's tracked. Hiding things won't work because the govt. will seize your assets and freeze your bank accounts. The UN will help. That's how I believe it will go.


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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
, a Mauser 98 with a 20-round "trench" magazine would come in handy.


I've got one of those magazines, I think I bought it from Sarco or somebody like that back in 1999. ! I need to sell it, too.


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Keep in mind, if they pass a "new" AWB it won't be the "old" AWB. Attempting to plan around the rules of the old AWB is a plan to fail.

The Marxist have had 26 years to contemplate all the "loop holes" in their old ban and make "improvements" to it.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Keep in mind, if they pass a "new" AWB it won't be the "old" AWB. Attempting to plan around the rules of the old AWB is a plan to fail.

The Marxist have had 26 years to contemplate all the "loop holes" in their old ban and make "improvements" to it.


The banks will report what you spend money on, and if its gun related, no bank account, no school for your kids, no airline tickets, no healthcare, see where I'm going. It won't be anything like 1994.


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Originally Posted by Borchardt
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Keep in mind, if they pass a "new" AWB it won't be the "old" AWB. Attempting to plan around the rules of the old AWB is a plan to fail.

The Marxist have had 26 years to contemplate all the "loop holes" in their old ban and make "improvements" to it.


The banks will report what you spend money on, and if its gun related, no bank account, no school for your kids, no airline tickets, no healthcare, see where I'm going. It won't be anything like 1994.


It will be a lot more like 1984.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
I lived through the original AWB. I only owned a 6601 Colt and a Glock 9mm at the time but I remember Magazines going crazy and preban rifles at least doubling, be imports triple or better.
So if they somehow get a ban that looks like the last one, what would be an ideal ban proof gun?
Mini 14, AUG, Tavor, M1A?

There won't be any.


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Don’t knock the Garand.

25 years ago some of us were invited to shoot on a military range where you stood in a fake fox hole. Targets popped up at random angles from 50 to 350 meters away. They stayed up for 5 seconds and registered if you hit or not.

I got 37 out of 40 and won third. Two guys with ARs tied at 38 and had a shootout. The colonel asked me to shoot too because guys liked to watch me shoot “that old fashioned rifle with the big bullets” (M1 Garand). I did and beat the other two guys.

The M1 only holds 8 rounds. But you don’t have to remove a magazine. The clip pops out and aligning the new loaded one is easier than an AR15.

Besides, a 30-06 hits with a lot more oomph than an AR15.


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