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Zeal for religion abounds here. Keep it simple, Take The Lord Jesus up on the greatest bargain in history!


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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And the Bible is either all true or all false.

I’m sure glad that there are so many people who reject that opinion. To suggest that another...should they choose to follow Jesus...is now also required to accept that dinosaurs actually went on the ark with Noah and his family and all of the other animals of the world is a bit much for a lot of folks. Understandably so.

Being as it would be impossible to flood the earth with all the ice and water available I wonder if the Noah saga didn't possibly come from an oral history of a people that escaped the flooding of the Black Sea as the ice age ended and the ocean poured through the Bosphorus inundating the lower country. Maybe the oral history of the people remembered an escape to the mountains with the animals they could drive ahead of them.


You need to talk to a Ph.D. geologist about how deep the water would be is the land was smoothed out


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Originally Posted by antlers
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Idk Hastings. Doesn’t really matter to me. Believing literally in Noah’s ark is not essential to one’s salvation. Nor is it essential to following Jesus and His teachings.

Did Jesus make a mistake? He accepted The Flood as historical.


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Idk Hastings. Doesn’t really matter to me. Believing literally in Noah’s ark is not essential to one’s salvation. Nor is it essential to following Jesus and His teachings.

Did Jesus make a mistake? He accepted The Flood as historical.

There is evidence that there was a flood. I agree there was a heck of a rise in the water level.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
Please give us three of Paul's false claims. Claims you can back up with facts.
I am wondering. How do you prove a claim false when there is no evidence other than the claim itself? Paul (assuming it was him) did write quite a bit that negated Jesus' teaching on salvation. I have suggested the site Jesuswordsonly.com. Read your bible. Compare Jesus and Paul.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm

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And the more absurd the narrative has become
the more some people believe it... go figure,

Instead of extraordinary claims requiring
extraordinary evidence, they prefer just to
double down Xtra hard on make-believe.

Rational enquiry or questioning is frowned
apon, for such indoctrination does not
permit such...believe or face punishment.

Take away the marketing spin and cheap window
dressing and we see Christianity for what it is:

A primitive ritualistic human blood sacrifice
cult brotherhood offering exlusive membership
to the gullible weak and insecure..Designed to
make them feel special by belonging.




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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Please give us three of Paul's false claims. Claims you can back up with facts.
I am wondering. How do you prove a claim false when there is no evidence other than the claim itself? Paul (assuming it was him) did write quite a bit that negated Jesus' teaching on salvation. I have suggested the site Jesuswordsonly.com. Read your bible. Compare Jesus and Paul.


I have for forty-years. I have made scores of cross references between them. I gave up on commentaries and others' opinions decades ago.


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And they continue to argue amongst themselves over details of the good book of "Chinese whispers", choosing to believe what best suits their particular narrative


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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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There was no world wide deluge as described in the bible. Especially not in the given time frame. Flood stories probably originated from extensive flooding during the end of the ice age. Extensive flooding is not a world wide deluge where all land is submerged.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
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Please give us three of Paul's false claims. Claims you can back up with facts.
I am wondering. How do you prove a claim false when there is no evidence other than the claim itself? Paul (assuming it was him) did write quite a bit that negated Jesus' teaching on salvation. I have suggested the site Jesuswordsonly.com. Read your bible. Compare Jesus and Paul.


I have for forty-years. I have made scores of cross references between them. I gave up on commentaries and others' opinions decades ago.

Are you a Baptist preacher? Just curious.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
And they continue to argue amongst themselves...
lol

When you make comments here, are you ‘arguing’...or are you simply voicing your opinion on a subject that you’re interested in...?


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Driven by desire and fear, faith is a poor means of sorting fact from fiction.

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Driven by desire and fear, faith is a poor means of sorting fact from fiction.
Nobody’s forcing any of it upon you, yet you seem to be ‘bothered’ by what others choose to believe about these matters. Why is that...?


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
And they continue to argue amongst themselves...
lol

When you make comments here, are you ‘arguing’...or are you simply voicing your opinion on a subject that you’re interested in...?


I was meaning that it's not just non-believer vs believer, it's also believer vs believer which is an ironic battle - no faith is fact, yet one is better than the other (for no provable reason)? My "fairy tale" is better than your "fairy tale"??? Really? Supposedly reading from the same book too on many occasions.

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Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Originally Posted by antlers
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Driven by desire and fear, faith is a poor means of sorting fact from fiction.
Nobody’s forcing any of it upon you, yet you seem to be ‘bothered’ by what others choose to believe about these matters. Why is that...?


It makes some people nervous.
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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Please give us three of Paul's false claims. Claims you can back up with facts.
I am wondering. How do you prove a claim false when there is no evidence other than the claim itself? Paul (assuming it was him) did write quite a bit that negated Jesus' teaching on salvation. I have suggested the site Jesuswordsonly.com. Read your bible. Compare Jesus and Paul.


I have for forty-years. I have made scores of cross references between them. I gave up on commentaries and others' opinions decades ago.

Are you a Baptist preacher? Just curious.


Why?


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For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.

Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong


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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
I was meaning that it's not just non-believer vs believer, it's also believer vs believer...
Your opinion on a matter is ‘yours’. People clearly and often see things differently amongst themselves. Regardless of them being non-believers or believers.


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Today's sermon was about seed falling on good soil, or rocky soil. Let us be" fertile soil."


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Originally Posted by antlers
Your opinion on a matter is ‘yours’. People clearly and often see things differently amongst themselves. Regardless of them being non-believers or believers.


So everyone is a winner. All faiths are correct and valid?


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Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?
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