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Originally Posted by TF49
...just a retired miner.
What kind of mining did you do, and where...?
I’m in Southern Colorado and there’s big mining history out here...especially coal. C.F.&I. ruled the roost out here for over a hundred years. I’ve been to many of the sites of former coal mining camps out here. The history of it all fascinates me.


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Originally Posted by antlers
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...just a retired miner.
What kind of mining did you do, and where...?
I’m in Southern Colorado and there’s big mining history out here...especially coal. C.F.&I. ruled the roost out here for over a hundred years. I’ve been to many of the sites of former coal mining camps out here. The history of it all fascinates me.

Didn't the companies murder a bunch of on strike miners out there over a hundred years ago?


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...just a retired miner.
What kind of mining did you do, and where...?
I’m in Southern Colorado and there’s big mining history out here...especially coal. C.F.&I. ruled the roost out here for over a hundred years. I’ve been to many of the sites of former coal mining camps out here. The history of it all fascinates me.

Didn't the companies murder a bunch of on strike miners out there over a hundred years ago?


Yes, Ludlow as I recall. Terrible.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by TF49
...just a retired miner.
What kind of mining did you do, and where...?
I’m in Southern Colorado and there’s big mining history out here...especially coal. C.F.&I. ruled the roost out here for over a hundred years. I’ve been to many of the sites of former coal mining camps out here. The history of it all fascinates me.


I don’t want to talk to much about it, but..... started copper underground in Arizona, then copper underground in British Columbia, then underground lead and zinc in Missouri.... then copper mining in Indonesia, then finished out as what I would call a “trouble shooter” based in Denver.

Did a lot of traveling over the years....


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Originally Posted by TF49
I don’t want to talk to much about it, but..... started copper underground in Arizona, then copper underground in British Columbia, then underground lead and zinc in Missouri.... then copper mining in Indonesia, then finished out as what I would call a “trouble shooter” based in Denver. Did a lot of traveling over the years....
Thanks TF49.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Umm, I think vice versa, mauser.

Where on earth are believers in Christ oppressors?

There are plenty of places Christians are killed and oppressed.

I think you are getting Christians mixed up with Muzzies.

How many times a day do we sound the horn for you to kneel and pray. Or drop what we are doing to kneel in the street, or forcing you to pray in church or school or making your wife wear a head covering or stoning you for crimes you do or for killing a sacred cow to eat?

What stores do we force closure of on Sunday?

Come now Jag. Can you deny the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Klan, the enslavement and murder of the Indigenous Peoples of South America, Martin of Tours destroying holy sites, temples, and consecrated trees, Marcellus of Syria destroying the temples of apposing faiths. Ancient History? How about the Srebrenika Massacre?

That Christians no longer commonly practice oppression of nonbelievers is much more a matter of politics than of doctrine. Heck, plenty of Christians right here on this board regularly call for genocide of Muslims.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by TF49
...just a retired miner.
What kind of mining did you do, and where...?
I’m in Southern Colorado and there’s big mining history out here...especially coal. C.F.&I. ruled the roost out here for over a hundred years. I’ve been to many of the sites of former coal mining camps out here. The history of it all fascinates me.


Include Uranium, Gold, Copper,Beryl, Sulfur, Red Beryl total tonnage far exceeding coal. if you include Utah, Wyoming

lots of stories about the spirits that live in those old mines,, some of the underground gold tunnels in Utah are 20 miles long. The Titans maybe. or maybe its just the subconscious of the mind as in Nietzche or Zoroaster or was that Zorro


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Etoh,

Just the history of the coal fields alone in Southern Colorado is a rich history.


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Ringman, the ocean is not a closed system and there are many mechanisms that remove ions from solution in seawater. Both physical and biological processes The salt in your shaker was formerly dissolved in the ocean, and precipitated in shallow seas to form salt beds, some of which are hundreds and thousands of feet thick. Like the salt beds used to store radioactive waste at the WIPP site. Or the salt beds that formed salt domes beneath Louisiana and Texas. Same with the gypsum in your sheetrock, formerly calcium sulfate dissolved in seawater that precipitated in shallow seas. And all the limestone previously mentioned, as well as limestone all over the world came from dissolved ions in seawater, either fixed by shelled organisms or sometimes precipitated in shallow seas.

In other words, the sea is not a closed system where the ions from dissolved rocks just accumulate. There are many processes that remove the ions from solution. These materials accumulate in sediments, are lithified into rock formations thousands of feet thick, and are eroded and recycled.

And like I said before, if this has to be explained to you, you have no business taking about "chemicals in the ocean."


Here's the problem with your " there are many mechanisms that remove ions from solution in seawater". The chemicals are not in equilibrium. They are still increasing. Why is that?


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Can you deny the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Klan, the enslavement and murder of the Indigenous Peoples of South America, Martin of Tours destroying holy sites, temples, and consecrated trees, Marcellus of Syria destroying the temples of apposing faiths. Ancient History? How about the Srebrenika Massacre?.


I will address a couple. The Crusades were Europeans taking back their counties from the Muzzies. There were only seventeen witches killed in the United States before real Christians took control. In Europe there were hundreds. Maybe even thousands. The Inquisition was a result of some secularist taking over the Catholic Church. They were not Christians. The Klan was not and is not Christian. They were and are Democrats.


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Ringman, the ocean is not a closed system and there are many mechanisms that remove ions from solution in seawater. Both physical and biological processes The salt in your shaker was formerly dissolved in the ocean, and precipitated in shallow seas to form salt beds, some of which are hundreds and thousands of feet thick. Like the salt beds used to store radioactive waste at the WIPP site. Or the salt beds that formed salt domes beneath Louisiana and Texas. Same with the gypsum in your sheetrock, formerly calcium sulfate dissolved in seawater that precipitated in shallow seas. And all the limestone previously mentioned, as well as limestone all over the world came from dissolved ions in seawater, either fixed by shelled organisms or sometimes precipitated in shallow seas.

In other words, the sea is not a closed system where the ions from dissolved rocks just accumulate. There are many processes that remove the ions from solution. These materials accumulate in sediments, are lithified into rock formations thousands of feet thick, and are eroded and recycled.

And like I said before, if this has to be explained to you, you have no business taking about "chemicals in the ocean."


Here's the problem with your " there are many mechanisms that remove ions from solution in seawater". The chemicals are not in equilibrium. They are still increasing. Why is that?


It really is true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Once again ringman, which chemicals are you talking about, how are they being measured, and where are they being measured. And please cite your sources. For once.



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Ringman, taking the holy land back wasn't the genocide of the Lang wy doc (sp) in france by the pope. "Kill them all and let God sort them out" 6 million dualists who wouldn't bow to the Christianity. " anyone who didn't was deemed a witch.

you have Charlemagne and your time frame mixed up


Even though some termed them Crusades.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
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God, being Infinite shows His Power with the universe. There are three heavens. Our atmosphere, space, and beyond is "the third heaven." Of course infinite is beyond our comprehension.


Ringman, do you still need me to explain where the "chemicals in the ocean" end up? Do you know where the salt in your salt shaker comes from?


I guess I was not clear enough. I want you to tell me why if the earth and ocean is billions of years old and chemicals have been eroding into the ocean for eons, why is it not so laden life can not exist. Try to answer that, please.


Here already did. You were just too uneducated to understand the answer.


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...….. it was not long after that that God spoke to me… actually called me by name. Now, THAT was an experience!

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Which god spoke to you? I know of several Muslims who had the same experience but they said it was Allah.


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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
That Christians no longer commonly practice oppression of nonbelievers is much more a matter of politics than of doctrine. Heck, plenty of Christians right here on this board regularly call for genocide of Muslims.


Yes, There's this member name jaguartx who called for that and the oppressive treatment of blacks on a regular basis. He claims to be a Christian, but it's pretty hard to tell based on his rhetoric.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
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Can you deny the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Klan, the enslavement and murder of the Indigenous Peoples of South America, Martin of Tours destroying holy sites, temples, and consecrated trees, Marcellus of Syria destroying the temples of apposing faiths. Ancient History? How about the Srebrenika Massacre?.


I will address a couple. The Crusades were Europeans taking back their counties from the Muzzies. There were only seventeen witches killed in the United States before real Christians took control. In Europe there were hundreds. Maybe even thousands. The Inquisition was a result of some secularist taking over the Catholic Church. They were not Christians. The Klan was not and is not Christian. They were and are Democrats.


Over 100,000 "witches" killed in Germany alone, all killed by "good Christians".


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Originally Posted by Etoh
Ringman, taking the holy land back wasn't the genocide of the Lang wy doc (sp) in france by the pope. "Kill them all and let God sort them out" 6 million dualists who wouldn't bow to the Christianity. " anyone who didn't was deemed a witch.

you have Charlemagne and your time frame mixed up


Even though some termed them Crusades.



I think you are referring to the Albigensian Crusade, which was Christians killing Christians over dogma.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
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...….. it was not long after that that God spoke to me… actually called me by name. Now, THAT was an experience!

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Which god spoke to you? I know of several Muslims who had the same experience but they said it was Allah.




It was Jesus.... I was contemplating the cross.....one of the things He said was “...if you were the only one,I would have died for you...”

No doubt.

I’ll wager that none of the Muslims you know said that. In fact, as I recall, at least one Muslim you referred to previously lied to you. Probably lying to you again.

But, you are free to doubt, disbelieve ..... remember, these are your choices.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Ringman, taking the holy land back wasn't the genocide of the Lang wy doc (sp) in france by the pope. "Kill them all and let God sort them out" 6 million dualists who wouldn't bow to the Christianity. " anyone who didn't was deemed a witch.

you have Charlemagne and your time frame mixed up


Even though some termed them Crusades.



I think you are referring to the Albigensian Crusade, which was Christians killing Christians over dogma.


yes that crusade Cathars/dualists.,

the other crusade (holy land) was establishment of trade routes and their protections, invention of banking system including letters of credit.


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Pope Urban the 2nd launched the crusade with the promise that the crusaders sins would be forgiven. He promised the remission of sins. And the landowners and knights charged off to do the first crusade and they raped and pillaged their way all through Europe, all the way to Constantinople, and all the way to the Holy Land because, after all, their sins were forgiven.


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