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When you side with a man, you stay with him. And if you can't do that, you're like some animal - you're finished! We're finished! All of us! Thoughts swirling in the mind of a trump voter.
The end of democracy, and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.
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Are you talking about backing out on a deal, or being held up? Either... When is OK to Lie? Never, with one exception. If the question asked is fundamentally dishonest, some form of deliberate entrapment, then it is ethically necessary to either meet that dishonesty with dishonesty, or knock the mother [bleep] 's teeth down their throat, whatever comes first. Tom
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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Politics is War by Other Means
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"Have you stopped beating your wife"?
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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I reach in my pocket offering him my wallet, but change the deal to a Glock 26 and up to 11 rounds of 124 GR +P HPs... or as many as are necessary for his consent to the “new deal.”
No honor among thieves, so none offered by me either... Hey, that’s what I was going to post! Even down to the grain!
if a man speaks, and there isn't a woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
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If you think lying to a group of thugs about whether you have any lunch money is going to somehow prevent what's coming next, you're lying to yourself.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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When you side with a man, you stay with him. And if you can't do that, you're like some animal - you're finished! We're finished! All of us! "Swirling in the stomach.... That is semen dumbass... and no we don't want to hear about your party party party weekend.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If you are good at lying nobody is ever going to know you're lying.
If nobody knows you're lying you can't be caught.
If you can't get caught then you can't be in trouble.
Which means there is nothing wrong with lying, as long as you're good at it.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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It's ok to lie if you hit him upside the head with your 1911.
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A liar is never worthy of your truth... and a thief is never worthy of quarter.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If you happen to be unarmed and a group of thugs is attempting to steal your lunch money is it okay to lie to them and tell them you have no lunch money?
Let's see where this one goes... Simple. I don’t carry cash in my wallet. Always in my front right pocket. Get held up i give them an empty wallet. Say “gimme your money” i tell my wallet is empty. No lies.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
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maybe like the guy that special orders parts......but stiffs the store ....not because he is dishonest ......but is a patriot proving a point?
I personally think he couldn't afford the parts.......like the boloney guy.......bob
It taco Tuesday... lets sauce this one up a bit. Guy orders auto parts from O... During their delivery... the CEO at O decides each customer will now pay a $10 "Rebuild Minneapolis" surcharge... Does his obligation to pick up the parts still remain? --------- Not defending or attacking anyone here. When do the rules change? Did Rosa Parks start all this Civil Disobedience... or were the rules flawed and unconstitutional from the get go. Not obligigated unless the ten bucks was included in the original quote.( verbal contract)
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Ever have a car dealer spring that $200 charge at you last thing?
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Carry a money clip, make it look bigger than it is. When held up, throw it a far as you can, run the other way, yelling bloody murder. You have no need to think about " thugs". The apple dumpling gang might be an issue to you though.
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Carry a money clip, make it look bigger than it is. When held up, throw it a far as you can, run the other way, yelling bloody murder. You have no need to think about " thugs". The apple dumpling gang might be an issue to you though. TFF
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Intent is everything in life.
Like a stranger saying 'Merry Christmas' and someone getting pissed off. It's not as if the person saying 'Merry Christmas' just said 'Go [bleep] your mother'. It's a well wish.
If my intent is to not harm someone else/take advantage of another, with my actions/words, no harm, no foul.
Raise your hand if you've never said 'Let me just put the tip in'.
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Intent is everything in life.
Like a stranger saying 'Merry Christmas' and someone getting pissed off. It's not as if the person saying 'Merry Christmas' just said 'Go [bleep] your mother'. It's a well wish.
If my intent is to not harm someone else/take advantage of another, with my actions/words, no harm, no foul.
Raise your hand if you've never said 'Let me just put the tip in'. Hell no. I promised every one of them the entire six inches, and I AM a man of my word. Occasionally she might have not gotten the entire hour, though I always tried my best. LOL
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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If you live north of Kentucky, isn't lying hard-wired into your DNA? Only if you are a mechanic and a school teacher. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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It is probably not lying if you say you have a medical condition to avoid wearing a mask in a store, or call in to work saying you are ill when only hungover, tired, going hunting, etc. Internet morality threads never fail to be funnier than the christian values threads.
#situationalethicsRus
mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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I’m telling the truth, the King of BS is going in the trash can.
No more for me. Blocked
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