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I think federal law enforcement only has valid jurisdiction on federal land. But that's a philosophical, not a legal, opinion. Sheriffs are charged with the responsibility of maintaining law and order in their counties according to the standards of the inhabitants of that county. Sheriffs have the power to deputize citizens at will to this end. That's a legal opinion. Sending feds in is an egregious overstepping of lawful authority. That's a personal opinion. Theses cities receive federal dollars, some of it for law enforcement.. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. The Feds have every right to intervene especially if it’s disrupting commerce. Federal highways traverse every major city in the USA. Government has "rights" now, huh. BWAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Refuse to pay your taxes and find out for yourself. Easy to do. Let me know how things work out. Did you know that the government had the “right “ and did effect integration in public schools ? Yeah, no scchitt. You ain’t got fuggin clue. People have rights. Govt has powers granted to it by the people.
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I think federal law enforcement only has valid jurisdiction on federal land. But that's a philosophical, not a legal, opinion. Sheriffs are charged with the responsibility of maintaining law and order in their counties according to the standards of the inhabitants of that county. Sheriffs have the power to deputize citizens at will to this end. That's a legal opinion. Sending feds in is an egregious overstepping of lawful authority. That's a personal opinion. Theses cities receive federal dollars, some of it for law enforcement.. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. The Feds have every right to intervene especially if it’s disrupting commerce. Federal highways traverse every major city in the USA. Government has "rights" now, huh. BWAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Refuse to pay your taxes and find out for yourself. Easy to do. Let me know how things work out. Did you know that the government had the “right “ and did effect integration in public schools ? Yeah, no scchitt. You ain’t got fuggin clue. People have rights. Govt has powers granted to it by the people. And the government has the “right “ to use those powers and does so. A rose is a rose by any other name.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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President Trump said he may send more Federal Law Enforcement to NY, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc.
What do ya think? Good Idea or a Bad Idea?
I personally think he should make very, very public offers to the Mayors and the Governors of these Blue Hell Holes, but only send in the help if they request it. If they want their liberal citizens to suffer at the hands of the "Mob", so be it. How will people like it if it's Biden sending in federal troops?
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President Trump said he may send more Federal Law Enforcement to NY, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc.
What do ya think? Good Idea or a Bad Idea?
I personally think he should make very, very public offers to the Mayors and the Governors of these Blue Hell Holes, but only send in the help if they request it. If they want their liberal citizens to suffer at the hands of the "Mob", so be it. How will people like it if it's Biden sending in federal troops? Sending in federal troops ain’t exactly new. But your question does remain.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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Federal force for federal property. And that includes Interstate Highways that would never have been built without federal tax dollars. Keep them open by whatever means is necessary. Federal law enforcement must not allow itself to be attacked in this role. A large part of sending federal law enforcement must be to demonstrate laws will be enforced and violence will be met with violence. Make sure an over abundance of officers are on hand to handle the fight. Have facilities on hand to detain those arrested and to transport them to temporary federal incarceration off site.
Let the rest rot. Maybe elections will be taken more seriously and not just a feel good experience.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version)
"And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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I read all these War of Northern Aggression posts.
How it was about States rights....that argument doesn't need hashed here.
Ironic how so many want federal intervention, based on their thought, on this issue.
I'm a believer in states rights, local rule, individual rights and responsibilities.
These are local issues, with national connotations.
Somebody mentioned, "as long as their hearts are in the right place" or similar.
That just flat doesn't work. Don't think it, don't try it. Never!
We have written laws to avoid the issue of where "the right place" is.
Do you want Feds to have power over your town based on what they feel like?
Ask Randy Weaver, or David Koresh. Well, David never got to talk, did he?
The answer isn't easy,
But I feel it's local.
Dam shame for people to have to suffer this, i dont like it.
Especially, the truly good people there. Libbs, or conservatives.
But it's their towns, their politicians. Their issue to solve.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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What happened to relieving the one in charge if psychologically unfit? No one in their right mind would let a city burn.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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President Trump said he may send more Federal Law Enforcement to NY, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc.
What do ya think? Good Idea or a Bad Idea?
I personally think he should make very, very public offers to the Mayors and the Governors of these Blue Hell Holes, but only send in the help if they request it. If they want their liberal citizens to suffer at the hands of the "Mob", so be it. How will people like it if it's Biden sending in federal troops? Sending in federal troops ain’t exactly new. But your question does remain. If Biden sends in troops it will be to suppress, Trump will send in to stop violence against the innocent, so it ain't the same.
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Trump will send in to stop violence against the innocent, Didn't he tell the cops to be nice, and he was keeping track of them? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rose-garden-executive-order-police
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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I read all these War of Northern Aggression posts.
How it was about States rights....that argument doesn't need hashed here.
Ironic how so many want federal intervention, based on their thought, on this issue.
I'm a believer in states rights, local rule, individual rights and responsibilities.
These are local issues, with national connotations.
Somebody mentioned, "as long as their hearts are in the right place" or similar.
That just flat doesn't work. Don't think it, don't try it. Never!
We have written laws to avoid the issue of where "the right place" is.
Do you want Feds to have power over your town based on what they feel like?
Ask Randy Weaver, or David Koresh. Well, David never got to talk, did he?
The answer isn't easy,
But I feel it's local.
Dam shame for people to have to suffer this, i dont like it.
Especially, the truly good people there. Libbs, or conservatives.
But it's their towns, their politicians. Their issue to solve. Except fed money is involved, so fed has skin in the game. States rights are well and good, and I don't disagree. But he who pays the fiddler calls the tune.
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Not a fan of the Feds intervening in any capacity, but I am a huge fan of commies getting the big .gov they so desperately crave. I'm torn folks! Naw, im J/K. Fugg em.
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The USAO's and fed judges won't allow anyone to destroy their places of work regardless of the political bent. They are the last people you want. to phug with. I read all these War of Northern Aggression posts.
How it was about States rights....that argument doesn't need hashed here.
Ironic how so many want federal intervention, based on their thought, on this issue.
I'm a believer in states rights, local rule, individual rights and responsibilities.
These are local issues, with national connotations.
Somebody mentioned, "as long as their hearts are in the right place" or similar.
That just flat doesn't work. Don't think it, don't try it. Never!
We have written laws to avoid the issue of where "the right place" is.
Do you want Feds to have power over your town based on what they feel like?
Ask Randy Weaver, or David Koresh. Well, David never got to talk, did he?
The answer isn't easy,
But I feel it's local.
Dam shame for people to have to suffer this, i dont like it.
Especially, the truly good people there. Libbs, or conservatives.
But it's their towns, their politicians. Their issue to solve. Except fed money is involved, so fed has skin in the game. States rights are well and good, and I don't disagree. But he who pays the fiddler calls the tune.
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I think federal law enforcement only has valid jurisdiction on federal land. But that's a philosophical, not a legal, opinion. Sheriffs are charged with the responsibility of maintaining law and order in their counties according to the standards of the inhabitants of that county. Sheriffs have the power to deputize citizens at will to this end. That's a legal opinion. Sending feds in is an egregious overstepping of lawful authority. That's a personal opinion. Theses cities receive federal dollars, some of it for law enforcement.. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. The Feds have every right to intervene especially if it’s disrupting commerce. Federal highways traverse every major city in the USA. Government has "rights" now, huh. BWAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Refuse to pay your taxes and find out for yourself. Easy to do. Let me know how things work out. Did you know that the government had the “right “ and did effect integration in public schools ? Yeah, no scchitt. You ain’t got fuggin clue. People have rights. Govt has powers granted to it by the people. And the government has the “right “ to use those powers and does so. A rose is a rose by any other name. You've obviously not read the documents written by the Founding Fathers. You sound like a fuucking idiot, again. RIGHTS belong to people. Government is a dead thing, If you want it explained further, spend some months reading of the philosophical foundations of your nation, you old worthless piece of schitt. Smarmy fuuck. Helena, MT. Come on down and defend your honor, old POS.
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I see the dirt protector is hitting the fire water again. Too funny
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I think federal law enforcement only has valid jurisdiction on federal land. But that's a philosophical, not a legal, opinion. Sheriffs are charged with the responsibility of maintaining law and order in their counties according to the standards of the inhabitants of that county. Sheriffs have the power to deputize citizens at will to this end. That's a legal opinion. Sending feds in is an egregious overstepping of lawful authority. That's a personal opinion. Theses cities receive federal dollars, some of it for law enforcement.. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. The Feds have every right to intervene especially if it’s disrupting commerce. Federal highways traverse every major city in the USA. Government has "rights" now, huh. BWAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Refuse to pay your taxes and find out for yourself. Easy to do. Let me know how things work out. Did you know that the government had the “right “ and did effect integration in public schools ? Yeah, no scchitt. You ain’t got fuggin clue. People have rights. Govt has powers granted to it by the people. And the government has the “right “ to use those powers and does so. A rose is a rose by any other name. You've obviously not read the documents written by the Founding Fathers. You sound like a fuucking idiot, again. RIGHTS belong to people. Government is a dead thing, If you want it explained further, spend some months reading of the philosophical foundations of your nation, you old worthless piece of schitt. Smarmy fuuck. Helena, MT. Come on down and defend your honor, old POS. That "reality" has been gone since 1873, get with the times.
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I think federal law enforcement only has valid jurisdiction on federal land. But that's a philosophical, not a legal, opinion. Sheriffs are charged with the responsibility of maintaining law and order in their counties according to the standards of the inhabitants of that county. Sheriffs have the power to deputize citizens at will to this end. That's a legal opinion. Sending feds in is an egregious overstepping of lawful authority. That's a personal opinion. Theses cities receive federal dollars, some of it for law enforcement.. That’s not opinion. That’s fact. The Feds have every right to intervene especially if it’s disrupting commerce. Federal highways traverse every major city in the USA. Government has "rights" now, huh. BWAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Refuse to pay your taxes and find out for yourself. Easy to do. Let me know how things work out. Did you know that the government had the “right “ and did effect integration in public schools ? Yeah, no scchitt. You ain’t got fuggin clue. People have rights. Govt has powers granted to it by the people. And the government has the “right “ to use those powers and does so. A rose is a rose by any other name. You've obviously not read the documents written by the Founding Fathers. You sound like a fuucking idiot, again. RIGHTS belong to people. Government is a dead thing, If you want it explained further, spend some months reading of the philosophical foundations of your nation, you old worthless piece of schitt. Smarmy fuuck. Helena, MT. Come on down and defend your honor, old POS. You obviously live in an alternate universe. You still have no clue and are badly damaging that 150 IQ claim. You’re a nasty little scchitt. While you’re contemplating your own stupidity, run up to the Berkeley Pit and clean that mess up. Still unable to post that name and address that you promised to do?
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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Are you questioning his support of LEO? Didn't think so.
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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President Trump said he may send more Federal Law Enforcement to NY, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc.
What do ya think? Good Idea or a Bad Idea?
I personally think he should make very, very public offers to the Mayors and the Governors of these Blue Hell Holes, but only send in the help if they request it. If they want their liberal citizens to suffer at the hands of the "Mob", so be it. How will people like it if it's Biden sending in federal troops? Sending in federal troops ain’t exactly new. But your question does remain. If Biden sends in troops it will be to suppress, Trump will send in to stop violence against the innocent, so it ain't the same. Give the power to one, you're giving it to all.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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EE is right. The locals had to have their chance to succeed or fail. They did almost nothing, so step in and be the "Law and Order" President. Do it legal and get it done. These are the domestic enemies that all military members took an oath to defend against. I'm not sure what oath the marshal service and other federal officers take but I am sure it is similar in some aspects. As it is, all but the stupidest people now know who will sit back and support anarchists destroying their lives and property and who supports the law and order.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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