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Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom. You can tell he really loved her because, apparently, he dated her for 10+ years and never married her. Getting married interferes with the welfare checks. LBJ strikes again.
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I guess one of those " pussies " changed their mind.
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Wouldn’t the second CCW shooting at car be charged for the AK shooters death? I kind of recall that a death in the act of a felony and the one committing the Felony got the wrap for it. Thinking Louie Brancato when his Ex-FIL killed a cop during a break-in the cop stumbled on. If the second CCW person and the AK guy where in the same group it seems it would apply. Not saying it should or shouldn’t because I’m not a first hand witness or legal expert. Just curious what the collective here thought.
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The dude who shot at the departing car likely (reasonably???) believed the driver did an unprovoked attack, and was an imminent threat.
The fog of war.
He probably will not be charged.
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There might not be any charges filed. https://www.wtnh.com/uncategorized/austin-police-identify-protester-shot-killed-by-driver/Manley said the driver and several witnesses told police Foster approached the driver side window of the vehicle and pointed an assault rifle at the driver.
The driver said they shot Foster and drove off, police said.
Manley said the driver called 911 and reported the incident. That person was taken into custody but later released. The driver’s name wasn’t immediately released.
The second round of shots was fired by protesters who witnessed the shooting, Manley said. The shooter fired at the car while it drove away. That person was also taken into custody but later released, Manley said.
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He was drunk on the kommie koolaid.
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The AK guy or CCW 2 may have been committing the felony and it would apply I would think. As in the AK guy being chargeable with “Assault with a Deadly Weapon“ or whatever the earlier poster mentioned.
Then again in DWI cases where there’s a death the passenger
isn’t charged for the Driver being under the influence and killing someone (I don’t think) so maybe it’s a specific use case.
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Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom. You can tell he really loved her because, apparently, he dated her for 10+ years and never married her. Getting married interferes with the welfare checks. LBJ strikes again. Trumps first two years had a R majority in the House/Senate. Nothing changed. GWB had two years with a R majority in the House/Senate (2005-2006) - nothing changed. See a pattern?? DeeCee is the enemy of the people when it comes to abolishing welfare.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Trumps first two years had a R majority in the House/Senate. Nothing changed. GWB had two years with a R majority in the House/Senate (2005-2006) - nothing changed. See a pattern?? DeeCee is the enemy of the people when it comes to abolishing welfare. Everybody knows that if they abolished the welfare state, we'd get riots like....well, like these. 
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If any weapon that is brandished or fired toward me or my family (that I am actively protecting)...
I will retreat to the best of my ability.
If said threat continues to advance upon my retreat... I will respond by all means necessary to neutralize the assault of the aggressor against me and my family.
Whether said aggressor is stoned out of his gourd or not will be ascertained later.
I will take my chances with the investigating officers, the district attorney and or a jury of my peers.
I no longer travel in s******* cities. Best of luck to you that still do. What has "retreat" got to do with this or anything else? Whoever came up with "duty to retreat" ought to be thrown in a dungeon and never let out. Throwing "retreat" into this mix only muddles things up. If someone is brandishing... they already have drop on you because you failed to maintain situational awareness. So you had better be faster and straighter than greased lighting. Fight as you see fit... but remember please... you seem to have a lot of emotion and may urinate in your trousers before you can draw a weapon. I have actual experience and I didn't piss myself. That is truly outstanding... and I know how proud you must be. Do you wear Huggies all the time... or just when you're headed out to a gunfight?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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The guy carrying the rifle was already an armed felon, if Texas law considers halting the progression of a car on a road as felony confinement. It would seem to meet the standards of felony confinement. The crowd should have been charged with the homicide, if the rule of law were a thing in this country. The guy firing at the fleeing vehicle should be charged with felony reckless endangerment, and several weapons discharge crimes.
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Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom. You can tell he really loved her because, apparently, he dated her for 10+ years and never married her. Getting married interferes with the welfare checks. LBJ strikes again. PREZACTLY!!!
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"As far as I know, at least here in MT. pointing a weapon at someone is considered assault with a deadly weapon.
THAT can be met with lethal force."
Same in Texas but in Texas you can shoot someone if they are illegally trying to enter your vehicle whether they're armed or not.
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The dude who shot at the departing car likely (reasonably???) believed the driver did an unprovoked attack, and was an imminent threat.
The fog of war.
He probably will not be charged. Exactly
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BS, he saw a man in a car shoot someone and then speed away. No charges should be filled, none
You have no business owning a firearm either. Jesus Christ. You are s frickin idiot. If you just saw someone shoot another person and that is all you saw and then speed away a reasonable thought process is the fleeting person is a danger to the general public I do not know about other states, but in Texas a Concealed Carry License does NOT give you the right to shoot at others as you decide is a public service. It gives you the authority to carry a weapon and use it for your defense and the defense of others from immediate threat. It Does Not give you any authority to pursue individuals or act in any way as a law enforcement officer. Someone fleeing the scene for whatever reason of an incident where a crime may or may not have happened is no justification whatsoever for one to conclude that they warrant being shot at. The person in the crowd that shot at the driver in the car should immediately loose his/her carry license and face multiple legal charges. The driver of the car was no threat whatsoever to this shooter.
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Austin Craigslist:
"For sale: AK-47, excellent condition, unfired, only dropped once."
Prosthetic limbs considered as possible trade."
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BS, he saw a man in a car shoot someone and then speed away. No charges should be filled, none
You have no business owning a firearm either. Jesus Christ. You are s frickin idiot. If you just saw someone shoot another person and that is all you saw and then speed away a reasonable thought process is the fleeting person is a danger to the general public I do not know about other states, but in Texas a Concealed Carry License does NOT give you the right to shoot at others as you decide is a public service. It gives you the authority to carry a weapon and use it for your defense and the defense of others from immediate threat. It Does Not give you any authority to pursue individuals or act in any way as a law enforcement officer. Someone fleeing the scene for whatever reason of an incident where a crime may or may not have happened is no justification whatsoever for one to conclude that they warrant being shot at. The person in the crowd that shot at the driver in the car should immediately loose his/her carry license and face multiple legal charges. The driver of the car was no threat whatsoever to this shooter. He shot at someone that he thought did an unprovoked shooting at protestor and DC pool ed away making others in danger
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Driver released without charges. Nuff said ![[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/a8/96/3ea896a75ca10f4f9c3980bb3982f822.jpg)
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BS, he saw a man in a car shoot someone and then speed away. No charges should be filled, none
You have no business owning a firearm either. Jesus Christ. You are s frickin idiot. If you just saw someone shoot another person and that is all you saw and then speed away a reasonable thought process is the fleeting person is a danger to the general public I do not know about other states, but in Texas a Concealed Carry License does NOT give you the right to shoot at others as you decide is a public service. It gives you the authority to carry a weapon and use it for your defense and the defense of others from immediate threat. It Does Not give you any authority to pursue individuals or act in any way as a law enforcement officer. Someone fleeing the scene for whatever reason of an incident where a crime may or may not have happened is no justification whatsoever for one to conclude that they warrant being shot at. The person in the crowd that shot at the driver in the car should immediately loose his/her carry license and face multiple legal charges. The driver of the car was no threat whatsoever to this shooter. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. In my opinion, if he approached the driver side door with his weapon pointed down at a 30-45 degree angle that can still be a lethal shot to the legs, pelvis, groin intestines. It does not have to be pointed at the face or chest.
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