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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: SD65] #14461265 01/12/20
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Originally Posted by SD65

I'd say Tikka CTR in 6.5CM over the .260. Euro Optics has both for same price, $898 blued, $998 SS.

https://www.eurooptic.com/search.aspx?keyword=tikka+ctr

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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14461368 01/12/20
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I’ll flip that the other way around and take the 260 over the Creed.

The creed is shorter, and has a straighter case which makes it tricker to feed, and a tad slower than the 260..
BUT you don’t really need longer bullets so why is shorter better ?


IF ... as the OP asks you are getting a Creed. Then I’d go 6 Creed = just beware that your barrel life will be shorter that you might like.

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Originally Posted by Spotshooter
I’ll flip that the other way around and take the 260 over the Creed.

The creed is shorter, and has a straighter case which makes it tricker to feed, and a tad slower than the 260..
BUT you don’t really need longer bullets so why is shorter better ?


IF ... as the OP asks you are getting a Creed. Then I’d go 6 Creed = just beware that your barrel life will be shorter that you might like.



What platforms/set ups have been “trickier” to get to feed the CM cases?

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: Spotshooter] #14461430 01/12/20
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Originally Posted by Spotshooter
I’ll flip that the other way around and take the 260 over the Creed.

The creed is shorter, and has a straighter case which makes it tricker to feed, and a tad slower than the 260..
BUT you don’t really need longer bullets so why is shorter better ?


IF ... as the OP asks you are getting a Creed. Then I’d go 6 Creed = just beware that your barrel life will be shorter that you might like.


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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14461451 01/12/20
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the magazine lips if you are building them from the ground up... I’ve got both the Creed, and the 260...

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Originally Posted by Spotshooter

the magazine lips if you are building them from the ground up... I’ve got both the Creed, and the 260...



You talking metal AICS style mags?

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14461595 01/12/20
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I feed Creedmoors out of 308 mags just as easy as Creedmoor mags.

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: joshf303] #14461663 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by joshf303
Originally Posted by Spotshooter

the magazine lips if you are building them from the ground up... I’ve got both the Creed, and the 260...



You talking metal AICS style mags?


I have both metal AICS and plastic MagPul mags for my 6.5 CM and both have functioned just fine.


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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: GregW] #14462056 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by GregW
Originally Posted by Spotshooter
I’ll flip that the other way around and take the 260 over the Creed.

The creed is shorter, and has a straighter case which makes it tricker to feed, and a tad slower than the 260..
BUT you don’t really need longer bullets so why is shorter better ?


IF ... as the OP asks you are getting a Creed. Then I’d go 6 Creed = just beware that your barrel life will be shorter that you might like.


Oh brother....




My thoughts exactly, the oh brother part. My son has the CTR in 260, I have the same rifle in 6.5. Believe it or not there has never been a feeding issue in either.....ever. I know this is a big surprise but it is actual experience talking.


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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14462081 01/13/20
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Yeap....

Have had at least half a dozen of both calibers mentioned in BDLs, M5 DBM/AICS, gas guns and loaded for many more. Can’t ever recall having a feeding issue with 22, 6, 25, or 6.5 CMs in any platform...so naturally Im curious...

Takes about 15 seconds to tune the lips on metal AICs mags if it’s needed.

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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14472837 01/16/20
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To the OP

Another option, if you like to march to your own beat and hand load, is the 6.5 x 55. Especially if your are going Tikka ( medium action), they are a perfect match imo.

The Tikka’s version of this cartridge chambering is spot on.They have the rifle set up with a long throat that allows you to get those long slender vlds out of the powder column. ( without running out of magazine length!!!!)

You do not have to worry about donuts as a result of the long throat. The pressure ring of all 140 to 147gr vld style bullets is well above the neck shoulder junction of the case.( below the neck shoulder junction is where the powder belongs). Reminds me of how the 300prc is set up. (Long throat, large head height )

I have a Varmint version in that caliber. Shoots ridiculously well, and handles the long vld style bullets better than the creed.

Don’t read into the absolute bullsheite, that a cartridge has to be “new” or “designed “ as an accuracy cartridge to be accurate. 90% of accuracy is in the barrel. Tikka precisely chambers their excellent barrels. No worries there.

Anyway... 1000 yard hits are cake walk with this combo.( at least when it’s not windy! ) I wouldn’t waste the extra dough on the ctr version, the varmint version will do the same for cheaper. The 6.5 x 55 works so well, I’m thinking of another tikka 6.5 x 55 in a sporter weight version.

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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14473309 01/16/20
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Well, being that it has been over a month with no decision and rising prices, I'd say grab an Origin action from Brownells for $742. Then grab a 6.5CM and a 6CM prefit barrel from Keystone Accuracy (2 for $700 deal), a KRG Bravo/MDT Oryx and a TriggerTech trigger. You'll have both chamberings for $2k total investment and they'll shoot good to boot.

Problem solved!

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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14474621 01/16/20
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I’m not seeing them for $742. Am I looking in the wrong place?


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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: Kaleb] #14474755 01/16/20
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Originally Posted by Kaleb
I’m not seeing them for $742. Am I looking in the wrong place?



Same here....

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: joshf303] #14474772 01/16/20
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Originally Posted by joshf303
Originally Posted by Kaleb
I’m not seeing them for $742. Am I looking in the wrong place?



Same here....


I’m gonna guess he means buying an origin from brownells during one of their frequent 10% sales. I get codes emailed to me all the time, and I’ve read that the codes do work for the Origin.

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Thank you


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Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: Walter_Sobchak] #14475699 01/17/20
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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
Originally Posted by joshf303
Originally Posted by Kaleb
I’m not seeing them for $742. Am I looking in the wrong place?



Same here....


I’m gonna guess he means buying an origin from brownells during one of their frequent 10% sales. I get codes emailed to me all the time, and I’ve read that the codes do work for the Origin.



Yep, sorry, should have stated that Brownells accepted coupon codes for the Origin and the KRG Bravo even on back ordered items. I grabbed an Origin for $726 and a Bravo chassis for $308 shipped(12% off coupon and free shipping)

I now see they are not accepting backorders on the Origin, guess too many people were taking advantage of the price break/coupon codes.

SD

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #14475718 01/17/20
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If you want to see you impacts like one does in PRS get the 6 Creed and put a break on it.

I run a 260, and a 6 creed ...

If you reload either and are getting a custom barrel you can get a 260 to run just like a 6.5 creed... but not if you are using factory ammo - then go with the Creed.

Re: 6mm CM or 6.5 CM? [Re: viking] #15083225 07/26/20
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I just bought my son a 6mmCR and have had .the same gun (Ruger American predator) in 6.5. Pretty surprised how similar they are. No kills with the 6 yet and wonder how it’ll go w the 40gr lighter bullet but trajectory and even recoil seem the same.

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