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Originally Posted by MOGC
I sense Mr. Barnard is on a different wavelength than many of us here.


U B correct Sir.


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Originally Posted by papat
Dan before he went digital

Does Digital come right before Ballistic...?

blush

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Hi point 45 acp rifles take a 14 rd magazine, just another example how every gun is a ak or ar to the media.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
When criminals are doing illegal acts, why cant they be illegally shot? fu-k a trial and due process, you willingly, "REPEATEDLY" forfeited that right!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner


"Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985), is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."[1]

It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger.[2]:563–7 "


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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When criminals are doing illegal acts, why cant they be illegally shot? fu-k a trial and due process, you willingly, "REPEATEDLY" forfeited that right!

gunner, you're thinking old school... blush

This is a kinder, gentler anarchy we're now dealing with...

Where's the love... wink

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Yes, they must be arrested without harm, housed, fed, medicated, taken complete care of till their tax funded trials..................I guess the love is somewhere between safe and fire ; ]


Now you know why various agencies wouldn’t hire me after I returned from Nam. That includes municipal, county and state here in Floriduh, and the Fibbies.

Barbarian Dan



I got turned down SEVEN times after getting out. I was told off-line that if I got involved in a "Use of Force" incident, the city would be sued for hiring " a trained killer".


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So was Mar-a-Lago incidental to the situation, or was it involved in whatever the goals these armed teens had? I'd like to know that. Doesn't sound like Mar-a-Lago was a target. I'd also like to know the race of the kids, the names of their parents, and the owner of the car.


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Originally Posted by Rugies
Hi point 45 acp rifles take a 14 rd magazine, just another example how every gun is a ak or ar to the media.

The one with the folding stock would easily fit in a back pack...

I guess any evil looking "rifle" with a pistol grip is an AK or an AR by default...

Reckon they all look alike...

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by gunner500
When criminals are doing illegal acts, why cant they be illegally shot? fu-k a trial and due process, you willingly, "REPEATEDLY" forfeited that right!

gunner, you're thinking old school... blush

This is a kinder, gentler anarchy we're now dealing with...

Where's the love... wink

DF


Yes, they must be arrested without harm, housed, fed, medicated, taken complete care of till their tax funded trials..................I guess the love is somewhere between safe and fire ; ]


Now you know why various agencies wouldn’t hire me after I returned from Nam. That includes municipal, county and state here in Floriduh, and the Fibbies.

Barbarian Dan



I got turned down SEVEN times after getting out. I was told off-line that if I got involved in a "Use of Force" incident, the city would be sued for hiring " a trained killer".

Wow...

"Untrained killer" may end up on a marble slab...

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by gunner500
When criminals are doing illegal acts, why cant they be illegally shot? fu-k a trial and due process, you willingly, "REPEATEDLY" forfeited that right!

gunner, you're thinking old school... blush

This is a kinder, gentler anarchy we're now dealing with...

Where's the love... wink

DF


Yes, they must be arrested without harm, housed, fed, medicated, taken complete care of till their tax funded trials..................I guess the love is somewhere between safe and fire ; ]


Now you know why various agencies wouldn’t hire me after I returned from Nam. That includes municipal, county and state here in Floriduh, and the Fibbies.

Barbarian Dan



I got turned down SEVEN times after getting out. I was told off-line that if I got involved in a "Use of Force" incident, the city would be sued for hiring " a trained killer".


Jeez! You never mentioned that at Armijo Springs, at least when I was around!

Just knowing what you are doing lately, I have a lot of respect for what you've gone through.

BTW, the kids are pining for more shooting experience.

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by gunner500
When criminals are doing illegal acts, why cant they be illegally shot? fu-k a trial and due process, you willingly, "REPEATEDLY" forfeited that right!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner


"Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985), is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."[1]

It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger.[2]:563–7 "



Again why my hats always been off to you guys, the maturity, patience, professionalism, resolve, temperament, and chain of command horseshlt I do not possess.


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