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Has anyone used Berger hunting bullets for deer or elk and how did they perform? TIA
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I heard of one guy that used them once. But it was just that one time.
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Has anyone used Berger hunting bullets for deer or elk and how did they perform? TIA I have. 195 EOLs. The elk died where he was shot. MV=3065; Range = 485yrds.
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Keep velocity under 3k and avoid big bones on elk at closer ranges.
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“If”, I knew that I’d never shoot an animal at close range (impact velocities above handgun velocities), and lIf”, I knew that I’d never hit heavy bone, and “If”, I knew that I’d “NEVER” need the bullet for bear defense at “”extremely” close range......I may consider a Berger or similarly constructed bullet! As I don’t like those points of criteria.....never will I use them for hunting! Any questions! memtb
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Has anyone used Berger hunting bullets for deer or elk and how did they perform? TIA Launched from a 308 the 168 VLD has been very good on deer and pigs at my camp.
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IIRC, MuleDeer published an article in regards to the Berger VLD's a number of years ago. IIRC it was on a hunt in New Zealand. I loaded the 150 gr. VLD's for a 270 WSM. I found them to be a bit more frangible than what I prefer in that load combo. Ya! GWB
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I developed a load for my nephew’s 7mm-08, 140 VLD at 2850 fps or so. I watched him shoot a little 3x3 mulie buck at about 225 yards. Coulda just been the deer, but two shots through the lungs didn’t put him down. The third one did, though.
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“If”, I knew that I’d never shoot an animal at close range (impact velocities above handgun velocities), and lIf”, I knew that I’d never hit heavy bone, and “If”, I knew that I’d “NEVER” need the bullet for bear defense at “”extremely” close range......I may consider a Berger or similarly constructed bullet! As I don’t like those points of criteria.....never will I use them for hunting! Any questions! memtb My respond above was from my personal experience. Like you, I don't use them for hunting. Now I use PT's AB's GS Customs, Cutting Edge, Hammers (Soon) and TTSX's....because like you I do not know what will present itself. Also anyone that knows me knows I am a Bee freak and all of them surpass 3k easy in the velocity dept.
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Here we go again!! 😂😂😂
Berger is the new “leupold” haha
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The past several years my family and I have killed a fair pile of antelope, whitetails, coyotes and mulies with the 105 Berger HVLD out of a 6mm-06 (3300 FPS MV). Ranges have been from 50 to 500+ yards. I have no experience with the larger calibers more suitable for larger game. The bergers have a great BC, are accurate in my rifle and kill stuff plenty dead but they do have their drawbacks. -On antelope and smaller bodied whitetails kills have been dramatic but meat loss on anything shot where bone was contacted has been higher than I like to see. -On mule deer/larger whitetail sized game chest hits have not produced an exit and internal trauma was impressive. Nothing went far but if you desire two holes and a blood trail probably not a great choice. I am actually in the process of working up a load with the Barnes LRX to see if I can get the accuracy I need with a bullet that won't damage quite as much meat should bone get hit and probably make two holes. If not, I will continue to use the Berger but pick my shots based on its capabilities/limitations. The folks I know that shoot them for elk pretty well stick to heavy for caliber weights and do well. All the elk I have personally killed or seen killed were with Barnes TTSX, accubonds or plain jane horndays so can't speak personally on larger game.
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............................ but meat loss on anything shot where bone was contacted has been higher than I like to see.
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I loaded up some 105 HVLD for my 6mm CM just last month. Hope to try them out on some deer this fall. I want something that will expand at those velocities.
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I loaded up some 105 HVLD for my 6mm CM just last month. Hope to try them out on some deer this fall. I want something that will expand at those velocities. FWIW, the lowest impact velocity I have hit any animal with the 105 HVLD is right at 2500 (coyote at 520 yards). Bullet expanded just fine.
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The past several years my family and I have killed a fair pile of antelope, whitetails, coyotes and mulies with the 105 Berger HVLD out of a 6mm-06 (3300 FPS MV). Ranges have been from 50 to 500+ yards. I have no experience with the larger calibers more suitable for larger game. The bergers have a great BC, are accurate in my rifle and kill stuff plenty dead but they do have their drawbacks. -On antelope and smaller bodied whitetails kills have been dramatic but meat loss on anything shot where bone was contacted has been higher than I like to see. -On mule deer/larger whitetail sized game chest hits have not produced an exit and internal trauma was impressive. Nothing went far but if you desire two holes and a blood trail probably not a great choice. I am actually in the process of working up a load with the Barnes LRX to see if I can get the accuracy I need with a bullet that won't damage quite as much meat should bone get hit and probably make two holes. If not, I will continue to use the Berger but pick my shots based on its capabilities/limitations. The folks I know that shoot them for elk pretty well stick to heavy for caliber weights and do well. All the elk I have personally killed or seen killed were with Barnes TTSX, accubonds or plain jane horndays so can't speak personally on larger game. A Barnes LRX hitting bone IMO will be pretty damaging and produce quite a lot of bloodshot meat also. Maybe even more than a Berger in my experiences with them. The 6-06 is a very fun cartridge and if you want to stick with Berger’s try the 105 hybrids with your velocity.
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“If”, I knew that I’d never shoot an animal at close range (impact velocities above handgun velocities), and lIf”, I knew that I’d never hit heavy bone, and “If”, I knew that I’d “NEVER” need the bullet for bear defense at “”extremely” close range......I may consider a Berger or similarly constructed bullet! As I don’t like those points of criteria.....never will I use them for hunting! Any questions! memtb Lucky for me I have a bit better crystal ball. I know I will shoot animals at close range and I am going to hit bone and there will be a grizzly around once in a while. Bergers work great but then I have actually used them on critters including lots of deer and elk.
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I loaded up some 105 HVLD for my 6mm CM just last month. Hope to try them out on some deer this fall. I want something that will expand at those velocities. You should have no issues.
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