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Originally Posted by Judman
Buncha bullies!! 😂😂


thanks, those two are just computer keyboard tuff boys that feel they know so much more than the rest of us. >> now back to the 257 Creedmoor ,some of my problems with the 131 gr. Black Jack bullets is maybe its what dies i am using. i have a Redding 6.5 Creedmoor bushing die with a .282 neck bushing and a 6.5 Creedmoor seating die.i don`t want to be the first to have Redding build a set of coustom dies for me that kinda gets expensive . i have tried to contact Redding with no answer and will try again next week.. i would like to try and get these two bushings .283 & .284 and ask about 257 Creedmoor dies then.


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I had the same problems your experiencing with my 1 gauge tri barrel!!


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i called Redding,Wilson,Forester die companies some were too busy one company wanted to much money. got a hold of Greg at Straight Line Machining told me to get ahold of Whidden Gunworks,Whidden person said they will build me what i needed for a very good price, on 257 Creedmoor bushing form die ,5 bushings, and a seating die,but i need to send them 3 pre fired pieces of brass shot out of my rifle. that brass will be sent in a.m. tomorrow with my check too, i think this may help my group size too ?


i also want to mention just fired 3 new lapua brass cases that were neck down for my 257 Creedmoor with 115 Berger bullets,40 gr. RL.26 still shot a 3 - shot 3/8 group at 100 yards,these will be sent to Whidden gun works

Probably be around 30-45 days before i shoot this 257 Creedmoor again will wait for the new dies from Whidden Gunworks. have a great July 4th !

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I'm about tired of a-holes who hijack posts with negative comments that have no bearing on the discussion. Some of us are interested in this, so you other guys go screw yourselves.


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This thread has inspired me to finally make the leap and do an 8mm Creedmoor.

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Not sure if you're joking or not, RemModel8. I first thought that might be a case of diminishing returns but I remember reading a few years ago on a 6.5x47 Lapua thread (different site) where someone first tried the 7x47 and the performance from that little cartridge was very impressive. So considering the difference in case capacity between the Lapua and the Creedmoor, the 8mm CM isn't a stretch.


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Originally Posted by Offshoreman
I'm about tired of a-holes who hijack posts with negative comments that have no bearing on the discussion. Some of us are interested in this, so you other guys go screw yourselves.



yep your very right ! some of these people are so full of themselves

and i am still waiting for my 257 Creedmoor dies from Whidden,but i knew the wait was long too.


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i just talk to Berger bullets and asked if Berger had any plans to make some heavier grain 25 caliber bullets,Berger said not yet its been only thought about. what we need is more guys calling them and asking Berger if they plan on making 25 caliber heavier grain bullets for target shooters ? here is the Berger # 660-460-2802 thank you,Pete53


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no custom 257 Creedmoor dies yet ,Whidden is busy might be early November not sure ? but i do plan on using Berger 25 caliber bullets for deer season in my 257 Weatherby mag. since i read the Gun Gack III book by John Barsness and in his book how well Berger bullets worked on game animals. Pete53


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today the custom 257 Creedmoor Whidden dies were in the mail box ! but its now almost deer season with a rifle " Nov. 7th" so i am getting ready for that right now ,these new dies look very nice i do feel it should help with some accuracy too.

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Pete...might be interested in the Ultimate Reloaded, located on You Tube..he built a .25 Creed and is starting to test it.

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I didn't read this whole thing and may have suggested this before but I would try the 128 Hammer Bullets

https://hammerbullets.com/product/257-cal-128g-hammer-hunter/

Other Hammer bullets have shot well for me and I am using the 103s in a 257 Weatherby with good luck. One thought on the Black Jack bullets since they are made by Sierra most long range shooters would use a meplat uniformer on the Match Kings.

BiBullets will do custom bullets as well as some others but will have a 1-5,000 minimum so maybe a group buy? Hammer will also do custom orders but not sure of their minimum. I would like to see the maximum for 1-10 twist bullet seems like they could go heavier than the 103.


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Have a couple of 250AI`s, 10 twist comp. gun and 10 twist sportter, 24 on the sportter, 26 on the tube gun. I`m going by memory here so could be faulty, but think Lutz`s info on .25grn. bullets 110 and over start to loose ballistic efficiency. Even Bergers 115 grn, which I shoot a lot of, is marginally stable, lowering BC. Talking with Swampy, JLK`s before he passed also suggested that, so stayed at 108 to 110 gns. From what I understand, BIB does the same.
Like the .25, so will keep an eye out...gonna follow his progress.

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Good luck with your project. I'll be interested to hear how you progress with it.


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sorry guys but its still hunting season so i have none nothing but hunt . i have been thinking about this while sitting on my deer stand a lot : its about bullet seating using the Redding 6.5 Creedmoor seating die for my 257 Creedmoor cartridge seating i just wonder if all the bullets are off just a little bit ? like the 131 gr. Black Jack bullets and even the Berger 115 VLD bullets ? maybe now with these Whidden custom dies made perfect fit from my once fired Lapua brass i sent them ,that this custom seating die might help improve accuracy too ? like a 1/10 or 2/10`s ? things now that i do in my handloading of this cartridge do small things to improve accuracy.
>on the neat side on 25 Caliber bullets is i used Berger 115 gr. VLD target bullets killed one very large 10 pt. point /205 lb. dressed buck with this bullet ,and the bullet did a excellent job too ,i did use my Ruger #1 257 W.Mag. on this buck.

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Pete, my family killed a few deer with the 257 Weatherby with 9T Short freebore with the berger 115g Hunting this year, deer flopped instantly out to 370 yards, MV at 3600 on 26" barrels

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Is the 1-9" twist the fastest you would go in the .257 wthby.
I would like to order a barrel to build a .257 wthby. I would like to try some 131 gr Blachjack for long range coyotes in the winter and some lighter bullets the rest of the year. This is for a hunting gun. Will the lighter bullets stay intact with a fast twist ?
I see some 1-7, 1-8" , 1-9" barrels. Which brand of barrel do you like for the .25 cal. ?

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my rifle has a older brux barrel 1-10 twist 27 inch barrel , i am not sure how many deer or bigger bucks i have killed, i never counted them ,but my experience which may not be as many as some, i will say sometimes bigger bucks that i have shot thru the lungs or the heart will still run 20 - 50 yards after i shot them before these bucks tip over here in northern Minnesota.the 10 pt. 205 lb. dressed buck this year that i shot towards the end of the rifle season rutt time when i shot him thru the heart made it almost 50 yards and tipped over dead, these deer up next to the border of Canada are good sized too. > as far as shooting coyotes if you wanna save the hide the 257 Weatherby is not the cartridge you wanna use it will ripped the hide up bad maybe blow the coyote in 2 pieces. i use a 220 Swift with 60 gr. Nosler Partitions using this bullet in the Swift cartridge saves my hides to sell for a small profit.i also have a Noreen AR-10 in a 243 Win. that i use 85 gr. Nosler partitions for long range fire power and this cartridge does not ruin hides either. Pete Noreen lives near Missoula,Montana i would build a AR-10 much better coyote rifle , if you live in Montana many times i call in 2 or 3 coyotes at a time and a good semi-auto in a AR is the way to go. good luck

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HalH I would go faster for the 257 Wby. If I re-barrel I want to shoot the 128 Hammer and they recommend a 1-7" twist. I think a 1-7.5 might work but would have to check the numbers. It would shoot all bullets but the lighter weight varmint and target bullets which are too frangible for the Weatherby anyway.


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