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Anyone use them out of the 7mag for elk? Opinions / experiences? They shoot lights out from by Tikka at 3050 fps.

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How did you pull that up from so long ago? I need to figure that out.


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Originally Posted by rickt300


How did you pull that up from so long ago? I need to figure that out.

I use an internet search engine and go to the campfire links. I can't figure out how to use the campfire search without getting hundreds of results. The search for this thread took less than 20 seconds. I entered "150 grain ballistic tip" into Duck Duck Go. The thread was a few links down on the results. Search engines need "training". If you go on the campfire a lot, the results will favor the campfire. I'd like to know who came up with the predictive software, and how it works. They call it "AI". I don't know about that.


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Some search engines respond to something like this:

150 Ballistic Tip site:24hourcampfire.com

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Sounds like the experiences are pretty positive. I might swap a 150 accubond for the BT and see if the accuracy holds...

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I have used them both in my 300 WSM. 180gr and they fly identical. They literally go into the same group.


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Originally Posted by bobinpa
I have used them both in my 300 WSM. 180gr and they fly identical. They literally go into the same group.


I hope I have the same result!

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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by rickt300


How did you pull that up from so long ago? I need to figure that out.

I use an internet search engine and go to the campfire links. I can't figure out how to use the campfire search without getting hundreds of results. The search for this thread took less than 20 seconds. I entered "150 grain ballistic tip" into Duck Duck Go. The thread was a few links down on the results. Search engines need "training". If you go on the campfire a lot, the results will favor the campfire. I'd like to know who came up with the predictive software, and how it works. They call it "AI". I don't know about that.


Good to know, go outside the forum to get older links, doesn't make sense but that is how it is.


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Just bought some 150g ABLR for my 7mm RM and .280 Rem. If I can't get 155g Federal Terminal Ascent bullets, they may get used this fall.


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Originally Posted by aheider
Originally Posted by bobinpa
I have used them both in my 300 WSM. 180gr and they fly identical. They literally go into the same group.


I hope I have the same result!


Stacked in the same spot at least at 100. I'm in business. grin

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If it were me I’d use ttsx or the new federals look awesome!

Regarding your original Q. I’d go for the accubonds vs BT as it is a bonded bullet.
Sh*t happens In the woods and I’d want little insurance in case you hit the shoulder.

Externally, they look the same except for the tip colors, Ballistic Tip® bullets are color-coded by caliber while all AccuBond® bullets have white tips. Internally the Ballistic Tip® is not bonded and is designed for controlled expansion on medium game with approximately 50-60% weight retention.

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Originally Posted by Dre
If it were me I’d use ttsx or the new federals look awesome!

Regarding your original Q. I’d go for the accubonds vs BT as it is a bonded bullet.
Sh*t happens In the woods and I’d want little insurance in case you hit the shoulder.

Externally, they look the same except for the tip colors, Ballistic Tip® bullets are color-coded by caliber while all AccuBond® bullets have white tips. Internally the Ballistic Tip® is not bonded and is designed for controlled expansion on medium game with approximately 50-60% weight retention.


Completely agree, I’ve killed a metric ton of critters with accubonds in a variety of calibers. I like the idea of the BT for practice ammo and deer and antelope. The accuracy is very good with both, I’m sure I’ll use the bombs on elk. I might use the BT for deer just for fun. grin

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I’ve been trying for over 30 years to convince my deer and elk hunting friend and partner to switch from a ballistic tip or similar 150 gr 7mm Rem Mag Federal blue box ammo, but he won’t. And I can’t argue with him, with him having killed very dead well over 20 elk and scores of deer. I have never seen him lose an animal he hit, and most were one shot kills.

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I killed two big Bull elk with 140g Nosler Ballistic tips with the 7 Mag at 3250, first run of the ballistic tips. You would not believe how fast those big bulls died with behind the shoulder shots. Bullets did not penetrate both sides. One bull hit the ground and never kicked, shot on a dead run, slightly quartering broadside shot. The other bull was also on the run on a broadside shot behind the leg, and he kicked one real leg twice. Both were between 150-200 yards.

In the area I was hunting in, we saw elk hanging that had been shot with 270 Win shot with 150g Core locts, and 30/06's with 180g Core locts. They laughed at me shooting a 7 Mag which they called a cannon.

Cheapest part of the hunt is the bullet.

I have an old friend that hunts that area and all he uses is a 7 Mag with 120g TSX, says he has never found a bullet. This guy has probably killed 200 elk in his life if not more as he has hunted Az, Co, and NM, Mule man to boot. When he was shooting cup and core bullets, he shot the 175g Rem core loct in 7 Mag. He has a 16 Hand tall mule that is the color of Elk.

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Originally Posted by keith
I killed two big Bull elk with 140g Nosler Ballistic tips with the 7 Mag at 3250, first run of the ballistic tips. You would not believe how fast those big bulls died with behind the shoulder shots. Bullets did not penetrate both sides. One bull hit the ground and never kicked, shot on a dead run, slightly quartering broadside shot. The other bull was also on the run on a broadside shot behind the leg, and he kicked one real leg twice. Both were between 150-200 yards.

In the area I was hunting in, we saw elk hanging that had been shot with 270 Win shot with 150g Core locts, and 30/06's with 180g Core locts. They laughed at me shooting a 7 Mag which they called a cannon.

Cheapest part of the hunt is the bullet.

I have an old friend that hunts that area and all he uses is a 7 Mag with 120g TSX, says he has never found a bullet. This guy has probably killed 200 elk in his life if not more as he has hunted Az, Co, and NM, Mule man to boot. When he was shooting cup and core bullets, he shot the 175g Rem core loct in 7 Mag. He has a 16 Hand tall mule that is the color of Elk.


I watched my brother put one of those early 140 BT from a 280 into the shoulder of a cow. From fairly close range, broadside, about 80 yds. He said he just couldn't hold off the shoulder for some reason. Struck the meat and it looked like an M80 went off inside the shoulder. She kept her feet and kept moving until he shot her again. It was hard to say for sure, but it didn't look like any part of the bullet made it into the ribs. The second shot was into the ribs and made a hell of a mess. Those early ones were "fragile" at times.


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That’s what my wife will be using in her 280 Remington for moose 150gr ballistic tip.


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That’s what my wife will be using in her 280 Remington for moose 150gr ballistic tip.

And why that particular bullet for moose?

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Ive been using that bullet in my .275 Rigby. Accuracy is excellent and so is performance, but mind you they are going at a LOT more moderate velocity than a 7mag...


I would not hesitate to shoot elk with the combo...

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