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I’ll toss out the 40g NBT. Tough little bullet. Kills coyotes very well out of my 221 and you have to look for the entrance/exit.

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Originally Posted by Ky221
I’ll toss out the 40g NBT. Tough little bullet. Kills coyotes very well out of my 221 and you have to look for the entrance/exit.



It kills pigs and other stuff IIRC.... laugh


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Yea I was wondering about 40gr out of the 222. I have a bunch of 40gr Vmax's One thing it is usually windy where we will be.


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To me the 40gr V-max is purely a varmint bullet GS and PD's, they are pretty fragile. The 40gr NBT is a whole different bullet and will stay together quite well, I usually find shrapnel and the bullet base against the hide on the far side of the coyote.

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Do you prefer the NBT's over the Varmageddons?


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Originally Posted by erich
To me the 40gr V-max is purely a varmint bullet GS and PD's, they are pretty fragile. The 40gr NBT is a whole different bullet and will stay together quite well, I usually find shrapnel and the bullet base against the hide on the far side of the coyote.


This is my experience also. I use the 40 NBT's for everything out of my 223's, it holds together and in my experience very accurate.

The 40's out of a 223 at 3750 - 3800 fps pretty much replicates the drift and drop out of 50 gr bullets in 22/250's which for a lot of years was the go-to coyote load for a lot of shooters.

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p.s. - they also work quite well on coyotes out of a 222.

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Never shot a Varmagedon or looked into them just because of the name, sounds like a lightly built bullet for small critters.


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Are the 40 NBT's flat base or Boat tail?


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A couple of the guys I was skinning for back when I lived in coyote country were using the 40 grain NBT in a 223 and 22-250. It seemed to work just as described. I never got around to trying them in a 222 on anything other than ground squirrels.


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Mart what are you shooting in your 222 Rimmed?


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The tipped Varmeggedon 40s kill very well if you stay off the shoulders IME. I’ve killed pigs over 200lb with behind the shoulder shots out of a 223. The wound looks like a big inverted funnel on broadside chest shots. If you hit a shoulder on an angle all bets are off and huge holes may result.

The 40 Ballistic Tip is much tougher.

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I sold that 222 Rimmed a couple of years ago but the 40 grain bullets all seemed to shoot the best in it. It shot the 50 grain bullets made with swaged 22 LR cases pretty well also. Right now my only 222 is a Remington 40x but I have a left handed mini Mauser that is going to end up with a 222 barrel on it soon.


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My all time favorite coyote load is a nosler 50BT pushed as fast as I can out of my 22-250. I used to use 4064 but 3-4 years back tried 8208 and will probably stick with that the rest of my days. The bullet pokes through the hide.... blows itself to bits and only the solid base comes out the other side. Kills yoties very dead very quickly. I’ve used 55 sierras and hornady sp and they have blown huge holes going out the other side. Vmax have blown huge holes going IN. Ballistic tip seems to be just about right.

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Are these the correct ones?

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Originally Posted by Landyboy
Are these the correct ones?

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No, those are 55s...50s seem to be preferred out of the .22-250 and the .222


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Yep sorry i did notice the 55 after i posted, i got it now 50's in the same thing. Also picked up a box of 40's in the same projectile today..


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Originally Posted by Landyboy
Yep sorry i did notice the 55 after i posted, i got it now 50's in the same thing. Also picked up a box of 40's in the same projectile today..


One-or both- of those should work great for you!


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Originally Posted by Ky221
I’ll toss out the 40g NBT. Tough little bullet. Kills coyotes very well out of my 221 and you have to look for the entrance/exit.



It kills pigs and other stuff IIRC.... laugh




Sure did.......and it was perfect on those javelina.

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What do you guys think about 60 grain Vmax's out of my swift at 3300-3400 FPS? Under 250 yrds, Expectations on fur?


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Originally Posted by Landyboy
I would love to use my .222 just didn't think it would be enough but maybe it would?


There really isnt much difference between a 222 and 223 other than twist.

Dont know where that notion started.

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