24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 10 1 2 3 4 5 9 10
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 3,442
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 3,442


.45-70 all the way down to a well-thrown rock.


Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.

Pronoun: Yes, SIR !
BP-B2

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,709
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,709
White tails on stand 45/70 especially if cow elk is open.

Savage 220 slug for slug season.

Mule deer stalk/ with out an elk tag 300 savage.

Mule deer stalk with elk tag 308 win.

Long range 7 mm mag or 308 Norma.

35 remin, or 356 , 348 Winchester get special mention


"Shoot low sheriff, I think he's riding a shetland!" B. Wills












Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,499
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,499
Originally Posted by hanco
Originally Posted by rflshtr
Does it have to be an 03-A3 to avoid that label or does any 30-06 count?




Any ole 06 is fine, but extra points if you have an 03 or a Garand



I'm Double-Dog certified as a patriot. I have both!

I could kill the vast majority of the deer I do with a .30-30, but a .308 adds reach for that occasional long(er) shot.

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,363
D
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,363
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
I sorta lean toward the 30-06 being an Elk cartridge and the 270 being a perfect deer cartridge.

Me too.

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 45,715
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 45,715
Originally Posted by winchester70
Originally Posted by buttstock
IMHO:

308 Winchester
( I like 180 grain flat-base bullets with it).


What he said.

Only, make mine a 150 Partition.


I agree with you both, 100%.

Only make mine a 7-08 with a 120 grain bullet.



A wise man is frequently humbled.

IC B2

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 942
CWT Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 942
It is a 25-06 with a 100 grain NBT. Prove me wrong!


Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store; not a government agency.
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,273
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,273
I'm reading this, and I have to say that I find the answers fascinating.

Mind you, I don't think there's a wrong answer. What's fascinating is the changes I see over time. I've been here since late 2002, and many of the folks here at that time were fellow refugees from shooters.com, so my memory of these conversations goes back well before the turn of the millennium. A lot of those guys I originally met on the Coleman-sponsered AllOutdoors.com. I'd say my memories date from 1997 onwards.

I'm not going to say that 30-06 was never a choice. It just wasn't the top choice. If you go back 20 years, folks were talking about 308 WIN a lot more. It was in its ascendency and 30-06 was going in the other direction. Folks were all about short action vs. long action and 30-06 was the loser in that discussion. I was once called a booger-eating moron for saying still regularly hunted with a 30-06. That's how strong some opinions were.

My choice, 300 Savage was in there as well. It's funny, but I got the idea for trying 300 Savage from this forum. It was a buddy of mine who amended it slightly, saying that 300 Savage was on its way to being and orphan and to shoot for a 308 WIN with a less-than-MAX load. That's how I came by current #1 favorite, a Savage 99 in 308 WIN that is a bit of a thumper if I load it up all the way, but it a joy to shoot with a 5% off-MAX load of H4895.

.223 REM? It was considered near-criminal. That chambering has had the biggest turnaround of them all. When I joined here, few people would admit that they had hunted deer with it. When I asked about it in conjunction with a Mini-14, some castigated me for the idea.

30-30? 30-30 was close to the top. There were two schools of thought. One saw it as the ultimate deer round and another saw it as yesterday's news and anemic at that. This was a major bone of contention. I gave 30 WCF a try and gave up on it. I have since repented.

35 REM has about the same amount of love as it ever has. 358 WIN was a bit of a niche, but a strong niche. 35 Whelen was very popular in theory, but not too many people owned one. I got mine on advice from fellow campers.

270 WIN? I don't remember that much support as there is now. It was a popular chambering, just not a whitetail deer favorite. A very few thought that 280 REM was the better round.

7X57 did not have the popular cache that seems to have now among the campfire glitterati. If memory serves 7mm-08 was seen as a new up and comer.

Then you had all the Wizzzzms. A lot of guys thought you needed a fat cartridge. I never got that.

45-70? Folks would opine that it was a crew-served chambering and rifles needed to be fitted with trunions for it to operate safely.

Mind you, none of this has anything to do with the real performance of the chamberings. This is all just what I remember of other people's opinions.


Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,587
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,587
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by hanco
The best deer cartridge

Whatever is in your hands when you see the BEST buck you've ever seen.



Tis true.
The actual killing of szhit is remarkably mundane – finding the right szhit, and/or having said right-szchit walk in front of us is far more arduous.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

WWP53D
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,069
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,069
Originally Posted by Angus1895
Savage 220 slug for slug season.
Idaho has a "slug season"?

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,692
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,692
Killed deer with all kinds of cartridges rifles and BP but my all time favorite is the 303 British.
Cat


scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
IC B3

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,709
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,709
Yes Idaho has a short ranged weapon whitetail season. The 220 is my go to. I also hunt in Minnesota.

Last edited by Angus1895; 08/29/20.

"Shoot low sheriff, I think he's riding a shetland!" B. Wills












Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,512
Like asking who's the prettiest woman; depends......


What fresh Hell is this?
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 30,594
A
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
A
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 30,594
Originally Posted by catnthehat
Killed deer with all kinds of cartridges rifles and BP but my all time favorite is the 303 British.
Cat


A now past Great Uncle of mine killed well over a thousand deer with at .303.....


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,531
F
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
F
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,531
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
I sorta lean toward the 30-06 being an Elk cartridge and the 270 being a perfect deer cartridge.

I'm prejudice because I've been using one since 1966, but to me for deer it's a .270 Winchester.


What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,692
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,692
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by catnthehat
Killed deer with all kinds of cartridges rifles and BP but my all time favorite is the 303 British.
Cat


A now past Great Uncle of mine killed well over a thousand deer with at .303.....

I'm a sucker for nastalic rifles and cartridges, and so is my hunting buddy.
We've used stuff like original 6.5X54 and 8X56 MS carbines, '95's in 30/40, he fav these days is an old Husky in 9.3X57.
Most of These rifles are a hoot to shoot and typically really light for the hunting we like to do- MOST of them, the ''95 is not really a lightweight and neither is a Garand! LOL
Cat


scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 150,030
hanco Online Content OP
Campfire Savant
OP Online Content
Campfire Savant
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 150,030
I have most everything from a 243 to a 338 Win mag. All are good if a good shot is made. I scoffed at 243’s and 308’s until I saw grandkids shoot dead pigs, deer, and Aoudads with their 243’s. I’m way over gunned.

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 862
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 862
IMO, you have to address both cartridge choice and action type. I’ve chased mule deer across Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Colorado and Montana. Over the 35 years of spot and stalk hunting I prefer, shots have average a little more than 300yds. Year after year, I found myself reaching for a bolt action 300wby or 7STW although I’m more inclined to use a 270wsm this year. For shots that average 300yds, a bolt action is a necessity accuracy wise.

For whitetails on my farm upstate NY, shots are typically either 225 to 360yds (over a large food plot) or in archery range in the thick cover. When headed to the food plot, I hunt most often with the Tikka T3x 270wsm followed by a LaRue PredatAR 308. If I’m in the thick stuff, I’m usually packing a pump 35Whelen. In other words, I pick my weapon based on where or how I want to hunt. If you forced me to pick one for whitetails, it would probably be a bolt action 270Win or a pump in 35Whelen. For open country mule deer, I’d probably stick with the Mark V 300by. Just my .02.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,292
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,292
Best for both Whitetails and Mulies? 270, 280AI and 30-06, can't pick one out as better than the other among em.


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,288
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,288
Originally Posted by shaman
I'm reading this, and I have to say that I find the answers fascinating.

Mind you, I don't think there's a wrong answer. What's fascinating is the changes I see over time. I've been here since late 2002, and many of the folks here at that time were fellow refugees from shooters.com, so my memory of these conversations goes back well before the turn of the millennium. A lot of those guys I originally met on the Coleman-sponsered AllOutdoors.com. I'd say my memories date from 1997 onwards.

I'm not going to say that 30-06 was never a choice. It just wasn't the top choice. If you go back 20 years, folks were talking about 308 WIN a lot more. It was in its ascendency and 30-06 was going in the other direction. Folks were all about short action vs. long action and 30-06 was the loser in that discussion. I was once called a booger-eating moron for saying still regularly hunted with a 30-06. That's how strong some opinions were.

My choice, 300 Savage was in there as well. It's funny, but I got the idea for trying 300 Savage from this forum. It was a buddy of mine who amended it slightly, saying that 300 Savage was on its way to being and orphan and to shoot for a 308 WIN with a less-than-MAX load. That's how I came by current #1 favorite, a Savage 99 in 308 WIN that is a bit of a thumper if I load it up all the way, but it a joy to shoot with a 5% off-MAX load of H4895.

.223 REM? It was considered near-criminal. That chambering has had the biggest turnaround of them all. When I joined here, few people would admit that they had hunted deer with it. When I asked about it in conjunction with a Mini-14, some castigated me for the idea.

30-30? 30-30 was close to the top. There were two schools of thought. One saw it as the ultimate deer round and another saw it as yesterday's news and anemic at that. This was a major bone of contention. I gave 30 WCF a try and gave up on it. I have since repented.

35 REM has about the same amount of love as it ever has. 358 WIN was a bit of a niche, but a strong niche. 35 Whelen was very popular in theory, but not too many people owned one. I got mine on advice from fellow campers.

270 WIN? I don't remember that much support as there is now. It was a popular chambering, just not a whitetail deer favorite. A very few thought that 280 REM was the better round.

7X57 did not have the popular cache that seems to have now among the campfire glitterati. If memory serves 7mm-08 was seen as a new up and comer.

Then you had all the Wizzzzms. A lot of guys thought you needed a fat cartridge. I never got that.

45-70? Folks would opine that it was a crew-served chambering and rifles needed to be fitted with trunions for it to operate safely.

Mind you, none of this has anything to do with the real performance of the chamberings. This is all just what I remember of other people's opinions.



Happening to also own a Sav 99 in .308 makes it very easy to agree with you completely.

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,944
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,944
Put me down for 338-06 with a 210 Partition, it works just fine. So does a 338 Win mag, 350 rem mag, 375 Ruger , 30-06.....

Page 3 of 10 1 2 3 4 5 9 10

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

Who's Online Now
106 members (35, 338reddog, 32_20fan, 10gaugeman, 257robertsimp, 9 invisible), 1,401 guests, and 698 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,187,589
Posts18,397,882
Members73,815
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 







Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.201s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.9075 MB (Peak: 1.0489 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-03-28 09:02:53 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS