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Jake needed some parts for the Deere chopper. Nothing in the state of Iowa the Deere dealer could find.

Jake Googled up this place in Rock Valley, Iowa, and called them. A two hour drive but faster than waiting till tomorrow.

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I think the bill was several hundred dollars cheaper.


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Get you a can of Fluid Film when your at the JD dealer. It is ideal for your mixed material application.
https://www.fluid-film.com/

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That looks like it's built to last

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With the cost of new, a fellow has to patch up the old. laugh


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Aftermarket, that’s the polite way of saying pirate. My company fights pirates all the time. Sure the parts are cheaper but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.

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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Aftermarket, that’s the polite way of saying pirate. My company fights pirates all the time. Sure the parts are cheaper but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


I get what you're saying but sometime OEM is flat out rape. For instance, trying to sort through some fuel related issues on a Yamaha 115 four stroke outboard. Factory mechanical fuel pump $220, high pressure fuel pump $370, injectors $160 ea. GTFOH with those prices. Bought a mechanical pump for $50 and entire set of injectors for $38 off Amazon. Some of us don't have an open checkbook to buy OEM parts. Maybe if their parts were more affordable and easily obtained we wouldn't have to resort to buying aftermarket.



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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
..... but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


That's one way to assure that you'd never get a dime of my business again and everyone I know would know about it. Keep that business practice up and eventually you won't have any, enjoy unemployment.

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The chain with chair links, and belt held with bar stock, what is it used on! I'm familiar with the chain with flights, bolted to the chair links, for product moving! The chain i am used to is usually 160 and 140 size chain! That looks to be about 100 chain! Curious about the chain!

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The chain with chair links, and belt held with bar stock, what is it used on! I'm familiar with the chain with flights, bolted to the chair links, for product moving! The chain i am used to is usually 160 and 140 size chain! That looks to be about 100 chain! Curious about the chain!

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One of the plants I used to inspect made different bearing products.

I mentioned the cost of two pillow block bearings on something I had just made.
He laughed and said, "just be glad the were painted FFFF gray, not JJJJ green, they would have been twice as much."

Only difference was the paint on the paint line for the days production.

I have to say that is a really interesting shipping case for that chain.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
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..... but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


That's one way to assure that you'd never get a dime of my business again and everyone I know would know about it. Keep that business practice up and eventually you won't have any, enjoy unemployment.


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..... but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


That's one way to assure that you'd never get a dime of my business again and everyone I know would know about it. Keep that business practice up and eventually you won't have any, enjoy unemployment.

Opportunity for parts dept to make a sale.


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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
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..... but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


That's one way to assure that you'd never get a dime of my business again and everyone I know would know about it. Keep that business practice up and eventually you won't have any, enjoy unemployment.


People who buy on price alone will always buy on price so really we were never going to get your business. My company pays for the r&d. Do you think that is free ? I can diagnose anything from hydraulic issues to electrical issues over the phone. I can mentally tear that machine apart in my head and tell you how to put it back together.
Do you think I work for minimum wage ? Fixing stuff in person is one thing, fixing over the phone through the eyes of someone that couldn’t spell PLC or hydraulics is a whole different level. Now add to that the language barrier. That cost has to be borne somewhere.

It’s kinda easy to charge half of what OEM price when you don’t have the Engineering and customer support Cost.

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..... but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


That's one way to assure that you'd never get a dime of my business again and everyone I know would know about it. Keep that business practice up and eventually you won't have any, enjoy unemployment.


People who buy on price alone will always buy on price so really we were never going to get your business. My company pays for the r&d. Do you think that is free ? I can diagnose anything from hydraulic issues to electrical issues over the phone. I can mentally tear that machine apart in my head and tell you how to put it back together.
Do you think I work for minimum wage ? Fixing stuff in person is one thing, fixing over the phone through the eyes of someone that couldn’t spell PLC or hydraulics is a whole different level. Now add to that the language barrier. That cost has to be borne somewhere.

It’s kinda easy to charge half of what OEM price when you don’t have the Engineering and customer support Cost.



I see what you are saying. Expertise isn't cheap.

But not sure I agree with that business philosophy.

My equipment and tractor dealer parts dept. offers me an aftermarket part when looking up something I need. Not only that, but they tell me whether the aftermarket is as good as, or sub-par to the OEM part.

That difference can be several hundred dollars.

Love my dealer. Wish I'd started buying equipment from them several years ago.


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Hey Richard—you guys ever have to pour babbit bearings on any of your machinery?
I had a diesel mechanic checking out a 471 Detroit in a commercial fishing vessel. I mentioned that the stabilizer bearing on the 2 inch shaft needed replacing. He didn’t know what I was talking about.
Me and a old sawmill worker gonna pour a new one this afternoon.

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The big equipment companies sub contract a LOT of parts.

If you buy aftermarket.....you are probably buying from the same supplier.

Just without the 1000% markup.


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Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
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Aftermarket, that’s the polite way of saying pirate. My company fights pirates all the time. Sure the parts are cheaper but if you call me for tech support, the first thing I do is look up your account, if you aren’t buying from us, enjoy your cheap part and broke machine.


I get what you're saying but sometime OEM is flat out rape. For instance, trying to sort through some fuel related issues on a Yamaha 115 four stroke outboard. Factory mechanical fuel pump $220, high pressure fuel pump $370, injectors $160 ea. GTFOH with those prices. Bought a mechanical pump for $50 and entire set of injectors for $38 off Amazon. Some of us don't have an open checkbook to buy OEM parts. Maybe if their parts were more affordable and easily obtained we wouldn't have to resort to buying aftermarket.



I understand where you are coming from. I am a consumer just like you. I just happen to see both sides from a very close vantage point.

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Karl, I have not heard of pouring a babbit bearing for years.

Back when Noble was going great guns in Sac City, Iowa, they some made parts for the big machinery companies.

I've been told by shop foreman they call around to price parts other places, and stay competitive

Parts they call a closed item like a crankshaft that can not be bought elsewhere is where they really clean house on the costumers.


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Oh, the belt, chains are on a three row John Deere chopper corn head.


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Let’s see, guy on phone that knows what a door handle is for your 2000 GMC, OEM replacement cost $95.00 or spend $8.95 on aftermarket handle

https://www.amazon.com/Handle-Inter...&hvtargid=pla-682598551564&psc=1

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