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A link to the articles by John Albert aka ‘35 Remington’ has been provided. There’s lots of good info there. Other useful 35 Rem articles are those by Glen Fryxell and Paco Kelly.

The current factory pressure is held to low levels because of problems with some older firearms that predate the Marlin 336. As mentioned, in a Marlin 336 that’s in good condition, there is no reason not to boost pressures to those of 30/30 factory rounds. Buffalo Bore ammo features a 220gr Speer at 2200fps.

I have had good results with cast. With Marlins that have micro groove barrels the usual cure is to use a bullet that is larger than the groove diameter, use a GC design and a hard alloy. I’ve used a Saeco 352 design to great effect. It’s pretty heavy and seems to be tailor made for the 35 Rem / Marlin application. My bullets weighed 247gr and were sized to 0.360”. Using 35gr of AR2206 powder I reached 2000fps with this bullet and accuracy was brilliant. This powder is some 3% faster than its replacement AR2206H (=H4895). I have also used H4895 but accuracy was not as good and velocity was down. I’ve not tried it but IMR 8208 might work well with this heavy cast bullet.

When choosing cast bullets just be mindful that the Marlin chamber has no throat, so designs with a long front drive band are likely to foul. Even the Saeco design that I used had to be crimped into position using a Lee FCD to make it function.

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Originally Posted by SargeMO
I've got a 1955 pre-Texan 35 with a 20" Ballard rifled barrel. I haven't had it long and just started reloading for it.

I usually have good luck reloading for a new caliber, simply by sticking to established components and procedures which have proven to work well for me. This 35 Remington broke my 'one load and done' magic.

I tried a Hunters Supply 190 grain cast RNFP over the basic 'start' load of H4895 for 1865 fps. That bullet is advertised as 358 and suitable for 35 Rem, but it was awful in my Ballard rifled 1955 Marlin. This rifle with plant three 200 grain FTX factory loads in 4 1/2 inches at 200 yards. With the Hunters Supply 190, rested 100 yard groups would be measured in feet, not inches.

I mic'ed a couple of these bullets and they were barely .358 and the base, tapering to about .356 at the front driving band. I've had great luck with Hunters Supply bullets in 44 Mag revolvers, so I'm not dogging on the maker. I do think these would make a good heavy bullet for the 357 mag.

I located a couple of boxes of new/old stock Sierra 200 grain #2800 'Pro Hunter' soft point bullets. Sierra's hunting bullets have always produced excellent accuracy for me and have been sure killers to boot. They are a tad harder than the 200 grain Remington CoreLokt, so I decided to run them a bit faster. For reasons I don't comprehend, the same people who 'get' Ruger-only 45 Colt loads or Tier Two 45-70 loads, get a case of the vapors when you talk about loading a 35 caliber Marlin 336 to 30-30 pressures. So if you're going to go Aunt Matilda on me, save your breath. I will read one of your posts and never see another one again.

I've found H4895 is ideal in medium capacity rifle cartridges; in fact that's the only rifle powder I stock. Quickload type programs indicate 40.5 grains of it should produce about 2195 fps at 41981 PSI. I started at 40.0 grain under the 200 grain Sierra SP, in Super X cases and got 2154 fps average with no pressure signs. This load is 1 1/2 grains over published, max loads for the 35 Remington. I recommend you do NOT use it. You might put your eye out or all your children could be born naked and toothless.

I had to adjust my sights a bit for this load and fired two shots between adjustments. Several times those shots were within an inch of each other at 100 yards. 200 yard trajectory was essentially equal to the Hornady 200 grain FTX factory load. The Sierra handload also outshot it, with three shots in 3 ½” at 200 yards. FWIW I measured the fired cases from the H4895/Sierra 35 Remington reloads. I had trimmed these to length before reloading them. If there was 0.002" of case stretch after firing, I could not detect it. Also absent was any indication of stretching at the web, the dreaded 'incipient head separation' line. This is all good juju. It tells me my sizing die is adjusted perfectly for this chamber (barely bumping the shoulder) and that I'm going to keep using the load. If I blow myself up, my wife has been requested to take pics of the smoking crater and post them here.

Finally- why. Performance of the 35 Sierra at 2200 fps has been tested in wetpack to 200 yards.

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Credit to John Albert for his research on the 35 Remington
https://www.suitorsgarage.com/gunstuff/35remington/35rempart2.html

















You will probably need a bigger diameter bullet for cast. I make my own and have had best luck at .360 in my 1954 336a.

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Thanks guys, all good info. I emailed Beartooth about their 200g FNGC and 0.359" was what they suggested.


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Originally Posted by SargeMO
Have you tried any cast bullets in yours, Gunner?


No sir Sarge, only the heavy 220's in the 35.

I run cast bullets in:

'94 32-40 and 38-55
'86's in 40-65, 45-70 and 50-110.

Jacketed in:

30-30 Win.
348 WCF.


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A friend gave me some Keith style cast bullets for my Ballard cut 336 20" Texan. Mild load of 3031 to keep them in the 1800-1850fps range and they punched through everything with a satisfying whomp, resulting in red indicator fluid streaming out of a neat round hole on two sides.

One of life's big regrets is trading that rifle away.

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More 35 Remington stuff-

With the 200 grain Sierra SP load finished, I turned my attention to a varmint load. I would normally have ordered a box of 357/180 grain Hornady XTP but like everything else, they are unavailable. I did have twenty 357/140 grain on hand and decided to try those. I didn’t expect them to shoot anywhere near the sights , but I did want to find out if the Marlin would group with them. Lacking 35 Remington data for 140 grain bullets, I used the start load for 180s- 35.0 grains of H4895.

I also stumbled onto some low velocity cast bullet data, using pistol powders, in various centerfire rifles.
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

One of the 180 grain 35 Remington loads listed is 7.0 grains of Winchester 231 for around 1050 fps. I just happen to keep an old Lee powder measure set for that load, because it works great in 44-45 caliber revolvers. I also still had 50 of the Hunter Supply 180 grain 357 bullets and I figure they aren’t going to shoot any worse over 231 and if it’s accurate enough for junk critters at 20 paces, that’ll do.

The 140 grain XTP load ran 1846 fps and put three shots in two inches at 100 yards, maybe three inches low. When XTPs are available again, I’ll be gassing some up to 2300 fps for varmint bombs.

The Hunters Supply 190 grain/W231 load did 1139 fps and put three shots in three inches at 100 yards- but low. It does shoot to the sights to about 35 yards and will overlap bullet holes at that distance. It’ll make a good low noise pest and plinking load.


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Has anyone ever used Vihtavuori N150 powder in loading 35 REM? Just wondering. I have an unopened can and just picked up a box of 200 gr Sierra rn and doing an inventory of powders on hand. Thanks


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I use this load 200gr FTX amd 36gr of IMR 4064 that gets great results

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