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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: R_H_Clark] #15199733 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark

Everybody sins,and everybody justifies their own sins and condemns the sins of others. It's just the way humans try to feel good about themselves.


Humans also justify their own deity while
condemning others in order to feel good
about themselves.

Its like going to a job interview and disparaging
all the other candidates which one knows nothing
about...merely displaying one's personal state
of insecurity rather than merits.


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: IZH27] #15199771 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by IZH27
R H Clark

antlers would give specific examples of living by the means that you guys agree on.

That you fellas believe what you say is fairly evident since you’ve been saying it over and over for much of this thread. What you ask is that people believe you and your approach but you are very general and vague about the matter. I’m a natural skeptic and am not prone to being emotionally or psychologically manipulated. I’m sure that many here are very similar to me.

If I might, I’ll ask the question if you with Antlers refused to answer. What spiritual growth or knowledge have you gained through your internal (extra Biblical) experience? Please, I’m asking for specific things that you have accomplished not these vague theories on how others are not experiencing all that they can because they don’t believe as you do. If this is real it is reasonable that you can give us a significant list of accomplishments.

When I started thinking along this line of seeking truth, It caused me to examine myself mostly. Possibly it was something about removing the plank from thine own eye before trying to remove a speck from another's,but I started with me. I realized that all those things that I sort of knew I should do,agreed that I should do and thought someday I would do,was really the guidance of the Voice OF Truth or The Holy Spirit,or whatever you want to call it.

I've been working on and improving all my family relationships. I've lost over 160 lbs in 2 years and at 52 I could out perform a lot of guys 20 years younger physically. I train myself both physically and mentally every day to be a better person. I don't know what tomorrow might bring and life is a great adventure again.

Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: wabigoon] #15199775 09/06/20
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you folks still bickering.


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: Starman] #15199788 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark

Everybody sins,and everybody justifies their own sins and condemns the sins of others. It's just the way humans try to feel good about themselves.


Humans also justify their own deity while
condemning others in order to feel good
about themselves.




BS, Fraud, i mean Freud. No Christian feels superior to those who believe they are coming back as a cow. We dont spread Bibles and witness to feel superior to others but to help defeat your hero and destroyer, Satan.

I dont feel superior to you, just more blessed, and im not happy about satan sucking you in to your eternal damnation.

That, in fact, is why we discuss what HE said.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

DONT BE GETTING ANY CORONA ON YA

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: stxhunter] #15199793 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by stxhunter
you folks still bickering.
grin


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: jaguartx] #15199801 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
No Christian feels superior to those who believe they are coming back as a cow.
lol


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: wabigoon] #15199839 09/06/20
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Some here bemoan that these discussions have not changed the minds of any.

We dont witness to change minds or save people because we cant. We can share the Good News and lead others to the Word. HE can change minds and save lives. There is power in the word, and the word is Jesus.
Millions on this earth have heard the Good News from withesses and have felt the call to know more. They know life should be more than misery and want better. Others who have had it so good, not so much maybe.

Millions have realized the United States was great, not because of the power of men, but because it was dedicated to God and by the power of HIM.

Too bad some of the recipients of His blessing on earth take what He has given us for granted, like the children of the rich so often also do.

Many Believers on the Fire can testify that He has changed their minds and lives after being led to Him by others.

All are free to accept or reject the Good News and His saving Grace of cleansing blood by accepting JESUS CHRIST, GOD'S SON, as the Saviour.


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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

DONT BE GETTING ANY CORONA ON YA

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: wabigoon] #15199853 09/06/20
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AMEN!


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: wabigoon] #15199857 09/06/20
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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: R_H_Clark] #15199978 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark


I've lost over 160 lbs in 2 years and at 52 I could out perform a lot of guys 20 years younger physically. I train myself both physically and mentally every day to be a better person.



Congratulations man. Thats pretty freaking impressive.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
AMEN!


Thanks, Wabi. HE thanks you too.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

DONT BE GETTING ANY CORONA ON YA

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

I Dindo Nuffin
Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: jaguartx] #15200058 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Some here bemoan that these discussions have not changed the minds of any.

We dont witness to change minds or save people because we cant. We can share the Good News and lead others to the Word. HE can change minds and save lives. There is power in the word, and the word is Jesus.
Millions on this earth have heard the Good News from withesses and have felt the call to know more. They know life should be more than misery and want better. Others who have had it so good, not so much maybe.

Millions have realized the United States was great, not because of the power of men, but because it was dedicated to God and by the power of HIM.

Too bad some of the recipients of His blessing on earth take what He has given us for granted, like the children of the rich so often also do.

Many Believers on the Fire can testify that He has changed their minds and lives after being led to Him by others.

All are free to accept or reject the Good News and His saving Grace of cleansing blood by accepting JESUS CHRIST, GOD'S SON, as the Saviour.


Agree Brother Jag


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: R_H_Clark] #15200235 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
It's a question asked by people who are obsessed with sin rather than grace.


And you know this from what source?


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: jaguartx] #15200255 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
.. We dont spread Bibles and witness to feel superior to others... .


Christians spread the propaganda that all other
God's are false, if that ain't feeling superior then
what is.?

Anyway your Bible tells you plainly that Jesus
Doesn't meet the prophecized messianic criteria.
but you are so gullible and gut-hooked on the
christian myth you can't let go... 😂




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A Joyful noise!


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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: Starman] #15200532 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by jaguartx
.. We dont spread Bibles and witness to feel superior to others... .


Christians spread the propaganda that all other
God's are false, if that ain't feeling superior then
what is.?

Anyway your Bible tells you plainly that Jesus
Doesn't meet the prophecized messianic criteria.
but you are so gullible and gut-hooked on the
christian myth you can't let go... 😂




There are too many problems with the bible for it to be anything more than the work of human thought and belief.

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Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: Starman] #15200706 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by jaguartx
.. We dont spread Bibles and witness to feel superior to others... .


Christians spread the propaganda that all other
God's are false, if that ain't feeling superior then
what is.?

Anyway your Bible tells you plainly that Jesus
Doesn't meet the prophecized messianic criteria.
but you are so gullible and gut-hooked on the
christian myth you can't let go... 😂




Surely you jest. Jesus fulfilled Old Testament prophecies beginning with the first one in Genesis 3:15. That first prophecy foretold of the birth of Jesus and His victory over Satan. Jesus also fulfilled the prophesy in Isaiah 7:14. Jesus fulfilled Old Testament messianic prophecies, and there is also scripture that accurately depicted the lineage of Jesus. Jesus is indeed the Messiah.

The whole Old Testament is Messianic prophecy and connects the Old and New Testaments. The prophetic foretelling that resurrection was part of God’s redemptive plan is evident in the binding of Isaac. That event opened an avenue for God’s grace to come to all of Israel’s future generations.

Leviticus 17:11 “...the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.”

Jesus was the innocent propitiatory sacrificial atonement who died in our place and made us righteous. All the Hebrew Bible sacrifices were just a shadow of what was fulfilled in Jesus.

“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

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That the bible has a problems with clarity, contradictions and so on is shown by the numerous interpretations of verse, denominations, sects, etc, that are related to it.

Re: "All things work together for Good". [Re: WhiteTail48] #15200758 09/06/20
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Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
Jesus is indeed the Messiah.
Jesus Himself said the Old Testament points to Him as the Messiah. I believe Him. The Old Testament didn’t become the first part of the Christian Bible, first. What we consider to be the Old Testament in Christianity today is actually the Hebrew Bible, what they called the Law and the Prophets. Early Jesus followers took the Hebrew Bible and found patterns in it’s laws, narratives, and psalms that acted as allegories and metaphors that pointed to the Messiah, who they recognized and believed to be Jesus.
Jesus said He WAS the Messiah. I believe Him. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, and Paul also recognized and believed Him to be the Messiah.
That Judaism doesn’t agree is irrelevant. Judaism, as prescribed by Moses at Mount Sinai, ceased to exist in the year AD 70.


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