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will a 60gr Partition stabilize in a 14" twist? thanks

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Originally Posted by southtexas
will a 60gr Partition stabilize in a 14" twist? thanks

Not enough to make them shoot well for me. Nor in 1:12, even at 4000' ASL. In 1:9 and 1:8, they shoot very well for me.


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Originally Posted by southtexas
will a 60gr Partition stabilize in a 14" twist? thanks


Not for me, either. The 63 gr Sierra SMP is my "go-to" heavy for 1:14s. Swift or .22-250. A real sleeper bullet.

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The 70 Accubonds work very well in my 8 twist 22-250, have taken a few deer and hogs with them, the most recent a 200 lb boar which was a shoulder shot at 200 yds. In the past I have used also used the 62 gr TTSX with good results on several deer and hogs.
While many here rave about the 75 gr ELD, my results with it have been questionable. I've taken a few hogs with it, and most recently a pronghorn in NM last weekend and results have been erratic as far as penetration.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
will a 60gr Partition stabilize in a 14" twist? thanks


Same deal for me as HuntnShoot and Sam H, and I am also at 4000 feet in Montana. But also like HuntnShoot, they shot a lot better in faster twists, even 1-12.

In fact, if I recall correctly the 60 Partition was designed for shooting deer with the .223, and at the time the bullet was introduced most commercial .223s had 1-12 twists. It might seem that the extra velocity of the .22-250 or Swift would make up the difference, but in reality even several hundred fps more velocity makes far less difference than an adequate rifling twist. (This is all explained in a chapter in the first Big Book of Gun Gack, as well as other sources, but somehow old myths die hard, including the one that a little more velocity will suddenly make an unstable bullet shoot more accurately.

For one thing, any slight change in environmental conditions can make the same bullet unstable. Another factor is the "original" inaccuracy may have been due to a "starting" powder charge burning erratically, and a larger charge burning more consistently. This is common with today's powders.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
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62 gr. Barnes TTSX


I'd use that without a thought, btw, the 63gr Sierra SMP's you rec'd for my old man buddys slow twist 22-250 had had him killing deer and pigs now for the last 5 years, still on the same bag of 100 rounds I loaded for him. wink

He obviously doesn't' waste ammo, says it just 'drops' em!


That 63 SMP performs way above its pay grade. It is the only bullet from Sierra that I like, in any caliber/weight/construction and does well on deer/antelope sized game at normal velocities.
It is also the only, and I mean ONLY .224 bullet (out of probably 40-50 that I tried) that doesn't keyhole out of my 22 Hi-Power.

I'm a believer.


You bet T Inman, I ask the old man if he got any exits, he said most of the time, must be a pretty hardy little slug.


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Good to hear all the positive results regarding the 63gr Sierra. It's the most accurate bullet I have found for my 225 Win (14" twist). But I have been reluctant to try it on deer. Sierra lists it as a"varmint" bullet, and there are a significant number of folks on the "fire" that don't believe Sierra can make a big game bullet even when they try!

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Mark Dobrenski has used the 63 Sierra on a bunch of big game from the .22-250, including a big black bear he killed with what Elmer Keith used to call a "raking shot." The bullet basically went corner to corner on the bear.


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Originally Posted by southtexas
will a 60gr Partition stabilize in a 14" twist? thanks



For some reasons, there are 2 Partitions that I've struggled to find accurate loads for, the 60 grain .224" and the 125 grain .264". I gave up on the 125 grain .264" since the 130 grain AB has been easy to find an accurate load for, but I kept going on the 60 grain .224" for awhile. The 64 grain PP has been much easier to find an accurate load for, so easy that nearly every load was accurate in nearly every rifle.

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IIRC a poster here has used the 60gr Hornady to great affect on lots and lots of critters big and small out of 220 Swift...

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Mark Dobrenski has used the 63 Sierra on a bunch of big game from the .22-250, including a big black bear he killed with what Elmer Keith used to call a "raking shot." The bullet basically went corner to corner on the bear.


Damn good to hear MD, no wonder that old Man is shooting through those deer and pigs, he has two cool old Browning's in 22-250, a Safari grade and BAR, when I found out he had a BAR I told him to buy a couple extra bags of brass ; ]


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Thought I would bring this back up with an update. The 62 Grain TTSX ended up being the winner. Half a grain off of Barnes' max load of RL 15 gave me a 3/8" group at 100 yards. Right at 3500 FPS over my chronograph. Will be putting it to use on an antelope hunt in early October. And on a doe whitetail grocery getting trip in November.

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