Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns The wrong gun & the wrong training?

The question, however, regards first time buyers with low motivation to learn about their guns.

They arent any better off with a revolver, a semi auto ain't brain surgery.
If anyone can't take the time to familiarize themselves with a deadly weapon then they are fools

I know from personal experience teaching folks that this is not the case. Instruction in safe handling of a semiauto is a lot more involved than with a double action revolver. There are simply more variables and safety concerns, with a semiauto, for the low-motivated first-time shooter, than is the case with a double action revolver.

The high motivated learner, with a high interest in firearms, is a different case. The difference in that case might be a bit narrower.

When the untrained have cocked the revolver and then have to let it down there tends to be a pucker factor involved.

BS, I've taught first time gun buyers with a semi auto as their first handgjn and it ain't brain surgery

Don't point a weapon at anything that you don't intend to shoot, keep your finger off of the trigger unless you intend to shoot. That's the same fir both type weapons.

Untrained and unfamiliar is not a good combo for any type weapon or piece of machinery.

A "teacher" explains and demonstrates why something is done before teaching how it is done. The 4 Rules work if one understands the why of their importance and ALWAYS follows them. If you can teach someone how to load the gun you can teach them to make it safe.

There is no limit to the ways the ignorant can phug things up. Teach a few CCW classes and you will understand how many gun owners will point a loaded gun at others and unconsciously put their finger on the trigger. All will deny it until they see the video.


mike r

That is nonsense.

This story is often relayed inaccurately.

http://www.odmp.org/officer/11072-border-patrol-inspector-john-a-rector

Bill Jordan was not practicing his fast draw. He removed a loaded gun from a drawer, failed to make the weapon safe, and shot it in a direction he shouldn't have.

Don't do that.

Yep. That's why I tell newbies to forget that hammer is even there.

You folks suggesting that a revolver isn't simpler than an automatic in its manual of arms are shoveling sand against the tide. Are you attempting to gaslight someone?

No, but you are

Revolver :
Press cylinder latch
Press cylinder open
Insert rounds
Close cylinder
Pull trigger till done
Press cylinder latch
Press cylinder open
Slap ejector rod
Close cylinder

Auto (striker fired / no safety to be most revolver-esque)
Load mag
Insert mag
Rack slide
Pull trigger till done
Drop mag
Rack slide to make your self feel better that it’s empty


What did I miss ? (Big fuggin difference :sarcasm )

Both have simple manual of arms, just different. People aren't as stupid as some seem to think (some are, though). It's just like all the women who come into the store and their husbands have them convinced they're the weaker sex and can't rack a slide. In 2 minutes, 95% of them are doing it just fine with the overhand push-pull method.

You're regurgitating old mantras that don't apply in 2020.

Especially when you consider juice vs squeeze.

Can't fathom for the life of me why anyone would think that a semiauto pist is too complicated for a newbie?
Police recruitsin large metropolitan arenas most never held a pustll until the academy and they do just fine

I guess it depends on the newbie. There's certainly more to understand about a semiauto pistol in order to operate it safely, though, so someone who's not really interested in learning about his gun (e.g., it's just going to be loaded up and stuffed in a sock drawer, just in case) should, in my opinion, be steered in the direction of a good double action revolver.

Why don't you layout this perceived complication thst you claim a semi auto pistol possesses.

They are not complicated at all


I font care where they put it ut should be a semi auto

Police recruits are generally 20 to 35 years old, don't have arthritis yet and aren't suffering the long-term effects of carpal tunnel syndrome Etc. They are generally plenty strong enough to work the slide of an automatic without pointing at toward their elbow or side or someone standing alongside them. And of course you have them for 6 to 8 months were you can correct them or send their ass down the road.

Some of us were actually around training those recruits with revolvers and through the transition to semi-automatic pistols. That group will generally do fine with whatever you train them on and yes, much of the new generation have never held a pistol before the academy.

Training private CCW folks is another matter. Lots of them are well into their golden years and they're not going to put in the time or effort to become class a action shooters with a semi-auto. many of them have already purchased a revolver before the training begins Many of those folks are in fact better served by the simplicity and ease of operation of a double action revolver.

I realize a lot of what goes on here is Hive think and trying to aggravate people out of your tree house. And right here is the only place where it changes anything and most of that in people's imagination.