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I read down into the comments to get the LEA's take. Still looks like the LEOs really screwed the pooch on that one.
As a non-LEO; were I to unleash deadly force on a compliant, non-threatening suspect out of incompetence or desire for vengeance; I would be charged and hammered by the prosecutor. Even if the suspect had previously threatened grievous harm to me, mine, and random passers-by.
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Cops who are into police dogs naturally like using them (like bowlers like to bowl and golfers like to golf), and there's a temptation to see situations as requiring their use when it's not actually justified. A good K-9 cop recognizes this factor and counters it appropriately. A bad one will give into his desire to see his dog in action regardless of appropriateness.
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The dog likes Mexican food.
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That doesn't look too good. I hope the dog food was a pedophile.
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I don't like the idea of the police retaliating against a guy that is complying
but this guy was an illegal who ran , put lives in danger and injured a woman because he didn't want to get caught.
I don't know if that action will make the next guy more likely to run or not, but he needed an ass whuppin. I'm guessing he won't run if he is in that situation again
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Maybe that dog will leave a few lasting impressions
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Rodney King was a teaching moment for the community in regards to not obeying police (and for the police when they are being recorded)
Some people didn't learn.
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The guy was obviously a bad actor who posed what they considered a lethal threat. That said, the K9 being released at that point was either a mistake or piss poor judgement in the use of force.The other consideration, and we see it all the time, is that the dog had a schitty "out" ( that is, to release the bite.)
The K9 fits roughly into the use of force continuum at the level of a baton. Nobody was swinging fists or batons at that moment... They're gonna have some explaining to do.
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Do they routinely use goldens for that kind of work?
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Do they routinely use goldens for that kind of work? Uhhh, nope!
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I would be worried a Golden Retriever might lick the suspect to death.
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Do they routinely use goldens for that kind of work? Golden Gloves may be used from time to time......
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Don’t know what happened previous to the guy laying down. Maybe he was armed? But something for sure.
Anyway I hope the dog doesn’t get in trouble or hurt.
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Guy may have been a complete jerk before that, but he had complied with at least 3-4 commands before they set the dog loose on him. There was no call for that.
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Got chewed up by AirBud
I’d say that retriever is probably a little hard on birds too
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Anyway you choose to look at it the end result is the police all went home unharmed after having to take a criminal into custody. It’s their safety that’s at stake here not the armchair quarterbacks. That’s a win as far as I’m concerned.
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I think old Jose there is gonna get paid.
Gonna have the fanciest low rider in town.
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The guy was obviously a bad actor who posed what they considered a lethal threat. That said, the K9 being released at that point was either a mistake or piss poor judgement in the use of force.The other consideration, and we see it all the time, is that the dog had a schitty "out" ( that is, to release the bite.)
The K9 fits roughly into the use of force continuum at the level of a baton. Nobody was swinging fists or batons at that moment... They're gonna have some explaining to do. Im going with expensive mistake. It's things like this that sometimes make me wish i had been a fugging lowyer. 
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Those cops ought to be fired. And probably will be.
Just before they're trials.
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