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Well boys, I just got today a Rem 722 in 222 Rem and this is my first 722 rifle. I think its the cat's meow. I am gonna get one in 250 Savage(if Rem ever made one) or have one rebarreled. Cool action in a cool chambering. I am also hunting down a 257 Roberts and 300 Savage. I have all my life had Weatherby and Win 70 big bores. Now time to get in with the old school lil' guys that just get er dun. I got a 6.5 Swede and my 7x57 is on lay-a-way. My summer of buying iconic nice old rifles. I think a 250 Savage would be perfect for leopard. I took mine with my 257 Weatherby at 50 or so yards. Why not the Savage. And if I cant wrangle up a 722 I can use my Dumolin Mauser Sarco action. Who does a good not over the top rebarrel and feed rails etc.. Job? Wanting a truck rifle not a $4K safe queen. The only regular production rifle that Remington ever cataloged in 250-3000 was the 1984 700 Classic. Like this? Except that the fore-end tip on the stock doesn't look like a 700 Classic stock.
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How many of you 250 savage shooters are loading the Hornady 117 gr round nose? Have found the bullet to tough for the lower velocity of the 250/3000 case?
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i killed a mule deer doe with a 25/35 using the round nose 117gr bullet, at 250 yards, threw the shoulders i got good expansion the deer took a few steps and dropped, bullet left a good sized exit hole. i think that they are excellent killer's with deep penetration. the old 257 weatherby magnum used that same bullet in there factory ammo.
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Astute observation, Remguy. My old smith did the fore-end tip and grip cap with rosewood for me. I think it not only looks good, but it may have tightened up the groups, too.
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I've got several .250s and a .257 Roberts. I enjoy the .250s more. Can't say why. Maybe it's the rifles. A ruger tang safety RSI and a Cooper M54 versus a Remington M7 in the Roberts. It's no problem whatsoever getting 3000fps from the 22in cooper with 100gr NBTs. To say it doesn't come close to a .308 or a 9.3X62 likes to compare apples to pigs.
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Just to enlighten readers of this thread. I have harvested nine deer with the 250 Sav. I currently own two rifles so chambered including a very accurate Ruger ultra light. Yes it is very accurate with right load combination, has very mild recoil and truly in the category of "enough". It is enough for deer and below, but not varmints and above. I have experienced issues with bullet expansion at the low impact velocities at longer ranges. Balistic tips have mostly solved the issues.
In my older age, experience (55 Years of hunting) tells me that I prefer to hunt with cartridges that are more than "enough". Strange how one changes with experience. The older I get, the more I realize enough is enough.
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Just to enlighten readers of this thread. I have harvested nine deer with the 250 Sav. I currently own two rifles so chambered including a very accurate Ruger ultra light. Yes it is very accurate with right load combination, has very mild recoil and truly in the category of "enough". It is enough for deer and below, but not varmints and above. I have experienced issues with bullet expansion at the low impact velocities at longer ranges. Balistic tips have mostly solved the issues.
In my older age, experience (55 Years of hunting) tells me that I prefer to hunt with cartridges that are more than "enough". Strange how one changes with experience. The older I get, the more I realize enough is enough. Truth.
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I have had problems with the 117 grain Sierra Pro Hunter coming apart on bone. 180 yards hit the neck vertabrae and completly came apart. 250 Savage hand load. Deer dropped in its tracks however I thought the bullet was tougher.
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How's the throat length on the Ruger RSI? Can you reach the lands with most bullets?
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How's the throat length on the Ruger RSI? Can you reach the lands with most bullets? Yes, lots of room in a 250 magazine.
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My RSI has a short throat, you can easily reach the lands with every bullet I've tried. I have some concern about how deep I have to seat the Hornady 117 RN. But it shoots very well.
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Is there a widely accepted powder preference for the .250 with bullets 100 gr and over?
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Is there a widely accepted powder preference for the .250 with bullets 100 gr and over? 100 grains is as heavy as I go. Many powders have worked extremely well for my 700 Classic. H4895; IMR 3031, 4895, 4064, 4320; RL15; N140 H4895 hasn't been too hard to find. It meters well and produces great groups and velocity.
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I second H4895 for 100gr. Bullets. Good velocity and accuracy, and very consistent. If your gun won't shoot the 100gr. Speer with 33-33.5gr. Of H 4895, I'd look for issues with the gun.
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mm you guys need to look at newer powders. varget was made for the 250 savage.i am shooting 90 and 100gr bullets with 22" barrel at 3050 FPS with super accuracy. now with reloader 17 110 gr bullets to well past 3000 FPS, want to shoot some long range varmint??? varget gets hornady 75 gr VMAX to 3470 fps at ,65"accuracy.!! love my 2 250 savage rifles, my savage 1920 and my savage 10 i built up. im waiting on my 1:8 twist barrel to get here to replace its 1:10 barrel' SB
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I use H4350 in my 250 Savage bolt gun with 100 grain bullets for an easy 3,000 fps. I want to try StaBALL 6.5 with heavier bullets next.
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I have two a Rem 700 Classic and a Ruger #1. The Rem like H380 with 100gr NBT the #1 4350 with the same bullet. If I want to jump to 110 grain bullets I grab the Roberts and 115 to 120 the nod goes to the Weatherby.
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Is there a widely accepted powder preference for the .250 with bullets 100 gr and over? H4895, Varget, RL15, Big Game are all about perfect for 87 to 100 grain bullets with H4350 near ideal for heavier bullets.
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Marketing execs like to sprinkle pixie dust on a product and call it "magical."
Who knows? Maybe they will re-invent the 250-AI Savage with a slightly bigger bore-maybe just 0.007" bigger-and call it something like, "6.5 Creedmore", and claim it is a magical 400 yard elk killer.
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