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Same guy who got a deathbed interview with William Casey when he was in a coma and unable to speak. Yep. Credible. LMAO


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Trump has a problem that isn’t easily resolved. The levers of this government are so intertwined with a permanent faceless bureaucracy that you really need someone familiar with the whole thing to know where they are and how to operate them. But anyone who knows all that, is likely a part of them and part of the problem.

Hard to be an outsider and get anything done in a system like Washington.

This right here.


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the 2 jews woodward and bernstein are like the vampires in movies who are in the coffin for decades until they are revived with the blood of fake RINO's. every 30 years they rise out of the coffin to attack a GOP target. those 2 like the rest of the rotten boomers pelosi soros kissinger ginsberg etc seem like they will never die

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Same guy who got a deathbed interview with William Casey when he was in a coma and unable to speak. Yep. Credible. LMAO

Like I said, Woodward is only a small part of the OP article, check it out.


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Unreal. And we all thought Mad Dog was great.

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This is just more proof that the military industrial complex has F'd this country and should be taken down and put in their proper place, and that is obedience to their boss,the President of the United States.

Shades of the Praetorian Guard and the emperors of Rome. After Augustus, real power gradually transitioned to the Praetorian Guard to the point where they eventually became the real power in Rome, and it no longer mattered whether there was a good or corrupt emperor. Only Constantine had sufficient power (since he was revered by the regular military) to toss them out.


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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

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Originally Posted by websterparish47
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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.


Meh.......operation ajax was a dud.


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Originally Posted by websterparish47
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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

Seems Ike was more politician than general, even when he was a general....

So, the transition wasn't that big a hill to climb for him...

Generals, like Patton, would never have made that transition. Georgie was all soldier, not much politician.

Today's generals, raised to flag status during the Clinton, Bush and Obongo administrations, were probably chosen for their political pliability more than their basic military abilities, IMO. So, no surprise how many are deep state swampsters...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

Seems Ike was more politician than general, even when he was a general....

So, the transition wasn't that big a hill to climb for him...

Generals, like Patton, would never have made that transition. Georgie was all soldier, not much politician.

Today's generals, raised to flag status during the Clinton, Bush and Obongo administrations, were probably chosen for their political pliability more than their basic military abilities, IMO. So, no surprise how many are deep state swampsters...

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It hadn't been too long before Obama was in office...in fact, it may have been when he was in office that a questionnaire was circulated amongst the officer corps as to what they'd do in certain situations. I'm sure those that scored high on that were promoted and those that didn't quietly pushed out. One of the questions was whether they'd order troops to confiscate guns from civilians in the USA.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by websterparish47
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

Seems Ike was more politician than general, even when he was a general....

So, the transition wasn't that big a hill to climb for him...

Generals, like Patton, would never have made that transition. Georgie was all soldier, not much politician.

Today's generals, raised to flag status during the Clinton, Bush and Obongo administrations, were probably chosen for their political pliability more than their basic military abilities, IMO. So, no surprise how many are deep state swampsters...

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It hadn't been too long before Obama was in office...in fact, it may have been when he was in office that a questionnaire was circulated amongst the officer corps as to what they'd do in certain situations. I'm sure those that scored high on that were promoted and those that didn't quietly pushed out. One of the questions was whether they'd order troops to confiscate guns from civilians in the USA.

I remember that. That such a question was asked caused me to lose a lot of faith in the military.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by websterparish47
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

Seems Ike was more politician than general, even when he was a general....

So, the transition wasn't that big a hill to climb for him...

Generals, like Patton, would never have made that transition. Georgie was all soldier, not much politician.

Today's generals, raised to flag status during the Clinton, Bush and Obongo administrations, were probably chosen for their political pliability more than their basic military abilities, IMO. So, no surprise how many are deep state swampsters...

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The Battle of Washington 1932

In the years after World War I, a long battle over providing a bonus payment to WWI veterans raged between Congress and the White House. Presidents Harding and Coolidge both vetoed early attempts to provide a bonus to WWI veterans. Congress overrode Coolidge’s veto in 1926, passing the World War Adjusted Compensation Act, otherwise known as the Bonus Act.

The act promised WWI veterans a bonus based on length of service between April 5, 1917 and July 1, 1919; $1 per day stateside and $1.25 per day overseas, with the payout capped at $500 for stateside veterans and $625* for overseas veterans. The catch was this bonus would not pay out until each veteran’s birthday in 1945, paying out to his estate if he should die before then. Although veterans were allowed to borrow against the bonus certificate beginning in 1927, by 1932, banks were short on credit to give.

General Douglas MacArthur led the Army troops, along with his aide Major Dwight D. Eisenhower and an able tank commander, Major George S. Patton. Under President Hoover’s orders to drive the protesters back across the Anacostia River, the Army was in position in the late afternoon. Once the order was given, the troops advanced with tanks, fixed bayonets, and tear gas to drive away the crowd of veterans back across the bridge.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by websterparish47
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions



Ike did well.

Seems Ike was more politician than general, even when he was a general....

So, the transition wasn't that big a hill to climb for him...

Generals, like Patton, would never have made that transition. Georgie was all soldier, not much politician.

Today's generals, raised to flag status during the Clinton, Bush and Obongo administrations, were probably chosen for their political pliability more than their basic military abilities, IMO. So, no surprise how many are deep state swampsters...

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The Battle of Washington 1932

In the years after World War I, a long battle over providing a bonus payment to WWI veterans raged between Congress and the White House. Presidents Harding and Coolidge both vetoed early attempts to provide a bonus to WWI veterans. Congress overrode Coolidge’s veto in 1926, passing the World War Adjusted Compensation Act, otherwise known as the Bonus Act.

The act promised WWI veterans a bonus based on length of service between April 5, 1917 and July 1, 1919; $1 per day stateside and $1.25 per day overseas, with the payout capped at $500 for stateside veterans and $625* for overseas veterans. The catch was this bonus would not pay out until each veteran’s birthday in 1945, paying out to his estate if he should die before then. Although veterans were allowed to borrow against the bonus certificate beginning in 1927, by 1932, banks were short on credit to give.

General Douglas MacArthur led the Army troops, along with his aide Major Dwight D. Eisenhower and an able tank commander, Major George S. Patton. Under President Hoover’s orders to drive the protesters back across the Anacostia River, the Army was in position in the late afternoon. Once the order was given, the troops advanced with tanks, fixed bayonets, and tear gas to drive away the crowd of veterans back across the bridge.



That wasn't their commands, they were just soldiers following orders.

That doesn't give much a window into their later development and what they did when they were in command positions.

Interesting, nonetheless.

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Woodward is trying so hard to be relevant again......He still has wet dreams about Watergate.

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