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A neighbor had a Wolf, German shepherd cross back the years. That dog was a chicken killer, otherwise not a bad dog at all.
The neighbor found a couple others after "Wolfie" died, but those were prone to seizures.
He doctored them with pills of some sort, but with little success.
Any of you folks ever had a wolf/dog cross?
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Known a few. All were suitable bullet stops unless you had something that just HAD to be bit.
Ranks with a chow for worthless.
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Haven't had a hybrid myself. Just the purebred g shepherd's
Good friend had a hybrid. Black as the inside of a closet in hades. Pretty good dog for the first year. Turned into a lunatic after that. One time on a visit I asked about the dog and was told the dog " went away "
I'm sure they didn't pay a bounty back in the day just for grins
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Might make a good rug. Or ballistics test medium.
At least that makes them more useful than pits. They don’t have enough hair to make it worth skinning them
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Wolves have been bred for centuries to bring out certain qualities.
The ones we love, have been bred to run, smell, herd, guard, sit in your lap, love you, enjoy serving you.
Wolves have been bred to hunt, kill, and survive in the wild.
You don't buy a weiner dog to run races, a blood hound to protect sheep, or a pointer to hunt coon.
Why in the hell would mix wolf into your family pet? Especially when the other half is a dog that has been bred to guard and protect.
And I'm not bashing GSD's. At all. But they aren't bred to be 100% lapdog. So whatever the wolf throws in there, is received into a mix of already somewhat higher aggression.
Kinda like you are making chilli. You have just the right chili's in there. It's got just a bit of bite, but the whole family will like it.
You gonna let some Jamacan dude just throw a double hand full of little peppers in the pot?
Except, you ain't paying $2k for the chilli. It's not a big deal to do plan B for supper. And a glass of milk will fix the pepper problem.
Not the same as a big, nasty dog.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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If you want a dog th at is a conversation piece, consider a Shiloh Sheppard.
Unless you want a guard dog.
A local had one for years. It rode on the toolbox in his pickup, everywhere. Never, ever did anything wrong, never left the truck, or showed aggression beyond being HUGE. Enhanced by always being seen standing on a 5 foot high platform.
My then 5 year old daughter almost peed her pants when we were walking beside "Diesel's" truck, and she looked up at him!
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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have had a pack of sibes & half-sibes. and a native american dog.
can't say i ever owned a wolf though.
animal control was tough.
they loved me.
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I caught a show on Nat Geo called America the Wild with Casey Anderson. He was interested in some huge wolves found in Tofino that might not be pure wolf. As part of the show he visited a facility in NM where both pure wolves and wolf dog hybrids were kept in a special facility. At the New Mexico facility, Casey is able to observe differences between purebred wolves, hybrid wolves and the broad spectrum of wolf-dogs that fall somewhere in-between. It was very interesting. The owner of the facility explained the difference in behaviors the various animals. The hybrid is nothing I would want to own based on what I observed on this show! Perhaps a few of you saw this show? Unfortunately it cannot be viewed unless you buy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONyTh9mPCzoCasey Anderson scours Canada's wild West Coast for clues to reveal who or what is terrorizing Vancouver Island: are these wolves, monsters, or a little of both? Provider Fox Show America the Wild Season S1 Episode E1 Release date 8/18/13 Running time 44:49 Documentary
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We had a wolf german shepherd cross when I was a kid. Good dog but very territorial. I was probably about 5 or 6 and mom tried to spank me when we were out in the yard and it turned on her, she barely made it back inside the door before it got her.
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I have no experience with them but heard someone say something along the lines of man spent a few thousand years breeding the wolf out of dogs why would you want to put the wolf back in. Tough to argue with that logic.
I remember as a preteen kid always seeing an ad in the classifieds of Outdoor Life magazine for “McKenzie Valley” wolf/dog hybrids and wanting one as a kid. My parents had other ideas.
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A former roommate of mine used to have one. Great dog and he and my female GSP got along great, but he would let her kick his ass when she felt he was out of line. The only thing that I saw negative out of that dog was that if there was a deer within a half a mile of him, he would run it down and kill it. It only happened twice that I was aware of before we caught on and kept him out of any place that had deer. But wow, when that switch flipped, he became someone else.
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possibly some of the most difficult dogs to deal with might be malamute-german shepherd crosses in the dominant male category.
i don't know that, just read it somewhere. a northern dog crossed with a european dog don't always turn out good.
wolf dogs if socialized as pups are probably quite suitable if the correct owner is involved.
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A good friend has a Shiloh Shepard, the dog is a huge baby. Great dog, great with small or big kids. I can not think of a bad thing to say about the dog. Friend says one of the smartest dogs he has even owned.
My ex-b.i.l. had a hybrid wolf/dog. I couldn’t say one good thing about it, but then that issues might be more the owners fault then the dogs fault.
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this guy probably has one
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On one hunt in Russia the guide came out of the tent with helluva nice looking fur vest on. I asked what animal it was. He didn’t speak much a English and I spoke less Russian. He replied in a heavy accent “Hooski”. I asked again and he again replied “Hooski”. He didn’t have much patience and finally yelled “Dog”. Damn nice vest. Wish I had one. They don’t waist much. After killing a brown bear they ate it guts and all. I declined.
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Wolves pack, and pecking order is huge. They are smart enough to "get" pecking order, but it has to be done deliberately from the very start by someone with a clue.
Girlfriend of my roommate had a female full-bred. Well trained, but very aloof for a period of time. After about three years, "Shay" would give me a slow greeting wag, a nuzzle and come immediately when called, but definitely not a dog.
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have had a pack of sibes & half-sibes. and a native american dog.
can't say i ever owned a wolf though.
animal control was tough.
they loved me. Do you have a pic of the sibe? Never heard of that one.
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have had a pack of sibes & half-sibes. and a native american dog.
can't say i ever owned a wolf though.
animal control was tough.
they loved me. Do you have a pic of the sibe? Never heard of that one. his name was gus. blue-eyed redhaired, and could speak in 17 different dialects. he was also a wooly variant. that's why i had him, noone else wanted him. sibe in my usage is short for siberian husky --- blue eyed wolves according to some. the half sibes were crossed with anything and everything here locally in ne georgia. they were all lovers not fighters. but would kill neighborhood chickens, etc.
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I met a friendly one that looked weirdly huge. The male was a Siberian mix. The body looked bigger than any mastiff. The head was strangely unproportional, much too large for the body. Hind legs against the fence he was taller than me .
Glad that the teeth I saw were smiling..... "Nice doggy.".
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