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You guys realize trees have the ability to reproduce, right?

It would add roads and easy access that was never there.

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Let me get this straight. If they logged it it would no longer be good for hunting and fishing?
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I shot my first elk in a clear-cut.

You are exactly right on the fire damage , but with today' sportsmen side X sides and the likes wilderness is not all that far away, logging makes roads and adds access that can ruin a huge area a fantastic hunting for years to come, I am not a anti logger by any means its just more profitable to log other areas.

Won't argue that Dave. In some circumstances the best way too.

But, I think the man wanted to preserve (yep, there's that sometimes nasty word) a particular portion of a system that was rapidly disappearing. THAT can't be done by logging it. Big trees like that will not grow back in your children's lifetime, their grandkids lifetimes, or even their grandkids grandkids lifetimes. Maybe take that section of forest he wanted to preserve and surround it with a bare dirt buffer 500' wide? Log that buffer and put in a lawn? Soccer fields maybe?

The sad fact of the matter is some folks want to see groves of trees and sections of forest that are relatively untouched by man since before the modern calendar started. Others see those forests as jobs and houses and paper pulp.

Jimy made a very valid point. If there's truly a shortage of lumber products in the US of A, why do I have pictures of barges loaded with logs and ready to go downriver to Japan? And that's just on the Columbia, not counting Coos Bay, places in AK, and Puget Sound. Would not all those logs make good wood products for the US of A, and maybe there would be a few more jobs here? Maybe we wouldn't have to import wood products from Canada?

I, for one, am really glad his predecessors in preserving big trees did such a good job with Redwood State and National Parks. Having spent multiple days there, being as how I lived in the area, I can tell everyone that's never seen one there is nothing, repeat nothing, like it in any area that's been logged. Having worked for a few years on 350,000+ acres of private timberlands I kinda know what I'm talking about there. And I've seen preserved areas in PA, WA, OR and AK, so I'd have to say the guy likely did the OR public a service in saving that particular patch of woods.

Could be they're all gone now? Yep. Could be whether man was involved or not, that section of woods could have gone up in any dry year. Odds of those trees standing through a fire event are a lot higher than them standing through a chainsaw event though.

I'll have to look up the Kerr dude. Don't know of him offhand.

Enjoy your evening up there.

LOL, the fact that they were willing to, especially given the slaughter in South Africa, speaks teams of what we are clueless about in that particular situation.

Have you been to Opal Creek? I have, just a couple of times. Kinda like it the way it ended up. Purportedly, there's 5% of the US PNW old growth remaining. Ain't hurting chit to keep some. Like the Redwoods and Sequoias, invaluable. Don't get me wrong, I think we should log the f*ck out of the rest.

Yep

But you're not reproducing a 250' tall Doug Fir, Western Hemlock, or other tree in a goodly number of generations.

And if you've only seen trees in TN then you need to " Go West Young Man" as some dude once wrote, to see what a real tree is.

Detroit - where????

Detriot Oregon.

Like Bull of the Woods, Indian Haven, Table Rock, Trapper Creek, Jefferson Park, Ollalie, there's some f*cking places worthy of existing. Like the Great Smoky Mtn, and some of those little preserved places back east.

There's wonderfully mature second growth in the Cascades to log, millions of acres of it. There's a chunk of land up by the Columbia River that I will not specify but it's thousands of acres of logging done right, fantastic game habitats.

The book you want to Read is "Something of Value" It is a great read and an eye opener, Robert Ruark was one of the best writers ever.

After that Uhuru is better !

I stole that from this tough guy:
Edward G. Robinson (as Little Caesar) in Little Caesar

But, it's kind of fitting

Much oversimplification.... +P+

Looking at my well worn copy on the book shelf now.

Andy Kerr. Met him. Road around in the Great Basin for part of a day with him and a gamebird guy . Wouldn't wish dying in a blaze on him, nor anyone for simple disagreements. Don't agree on a lot of ONDAs dealings... Knew some interesting chit about beaver in sagebrush country. Carry-on.

Maybe we aughta cleacut that f*cking Kings Canyon? How about that wasteland Yellowstone? Lets f*cking open up Glacier! Piss on it go go go go! God damnit people are f*cking starving! Cut the damned Redwoods down! Highlead right up elCapitan! F*ck yah! Salmon River, Bob Marshall, cut cut cut!
Carry on.

Highlead el Capital... LMAO!!

Central Park in NY has some dandy oak trees just sayin..

I get ya Boomer. Have a beer.

Maybe zipline it.