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Ol man picked this up at a estate sale yesterday for a buck. Took the wire wheel to er, lookin good. Needs a sharnpnin.
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That’s cool.

I like that kinda stuff.

Me too brother Dave

A buck?! You didn't tell me that part. Score!

From googling...


In 1895 William J. Sager, then of Warren, Pennsylvania, was issued a patent for a chemical treatment that was intended to reduce oxidation and prolong the finish of the metal that it was applied to. The process was actually a two part procedure. The first involved dipping the metal to be forged into a chemical mixture and then hammering the metal. That was done when the metal was very hot. The second stage was part of the quenching process implemented when the metal was heated to a red hot color after being tempered. The chemical solution was actually the quenching solution. The end result was a metal tool with a deep lustrous blue coloring that was claimed to be a higher quality and more durable than metal not treated in a similar fashion. The blue coloring itself was protected by a coating of clear finish.

Brother Dan, I will not devulge all secrets... 😆

Very interesting brother Dave, love this shiit!!

Btw Dave, wonder what the 4 2 is?

Four and half pound head.

Interesting.


Jud,

How much did you have to wire wheel? Wonder how the chemical process protected over all this time.

Doesn’t look like too bad of pitting

Makes sense, thanks fats.

Didn’t buff too hard on er, considering its 72, I’d say it worked pretty wel. 👍

Mighty fine score!

ya!

GWB

I never realized the the word "chemical" in the Sager Chemical name was related to a chemical treatment process...

A form of hot bluing?

Judman;
Good evening to you sir, I hope the day treated you acceptably and this finds you and yours well.

Thanks for sharing that cool piece of history with us, I appreciate it.

On another thread I believe I posted up a few of these photos, but suffice to say that old axes have become a bit of a rabbit hole with me to say the least.









In the orange ones, the one on the left is simply marked Sager, no date, so I'm not sure the age but am guessing it's the '50's at the latest.

Anyways if you're interested in a bit of educational and interesting reading on this subject, you'll like this site.

http://www.yesteryearstools.com/Yesteryears%20Tools/Home.html

Thanks again for sharing your new treasure and all the best to you this season as well.

Dwayne

Damn it Dwayne, very nice collection!!! Any up close and personal pics of the heads? I really dig that stuff. Thanks for sharin

Judman;
Thanks for the reply sir I appreciate it.

Sorry I don't have photos of the orange ones - they're orange because I use 'em and when I do up in the bush I um - misplace - them now if they're not orange....

One of the things I've gotten into is regrinding old roofing hatchets into tomahawks.



If you'd like a close up of any of them I can certainly do that, but no sorry I don't have any right handy.

Mostly I try for either North American or Swede built heads to fool with if at all possible.

The top one is a Hultafors Bruks with the original handle and original hollow grind too - never been sharpened as in...



Anyways, that's not all of them either Jud.....

All the best to you and again congrats on the Sager - they're really good steel on that vintage!

Dwayne

B30cal,

Thanks for the info,

The yesteryear webpage is neat!

Dwayne, green with envy.. you’ve got some dandy’s there. Thanks for sharin

I love the looks of those Dwayne. Is there a purpose to the hooks under the blades?

BillyGoatGruff;
Good evening to you my cyber friend, I hope the weekend was a good one for you all and this finds you well.

Thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it and freely admit that there really is no purpose for the hooks.

Although when I showed them last time and was asked, I'd promised to try a ferro rod with them to see if it'd work, but so far I've not done that.

When I started doing them a few years back, one of the fellows wanted a bit more of a hook than I'd put on the 2nd one from the right in the 3rd photo - which was one of the first ones I'd done.

Then the next one got a bit wilder and I sorta liked the look and I kept on fooling with it until the top one which is the last one I've done up.

So far I've used the top one to get a couple small trees that had fallen into the road out of the way and on a little 2 point whitetail's ribcage as well. I would say it works quite well for something so light and compact.

Thanks again and all the best to you this fall.

Dwayne