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Another 1909 Argie thread #15201909 09/07/20
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I've been looking for, and buying these actions, when the right ones come along. This weekend, at a hardware store, found one with crest intact and all marking including matching numbers throughout for stupid cheap money. Guy at the counter said it was "just an old Mauser". Yup, pack 'er up, pal. I think they're nice actions and keep squirrelling them away for value and family. I have a 1908 Brazilian in the closet which I may be willing to get rid of should anyone want it. Crest intact there as well if it matters to someone.


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Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: bluefish] #15203904 09/07/20
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Why? Best looking 98 bottom metal but mag is short and don t a lot of them need to be re heat treated? Time you pay for all the mods to make it work you could have 3 FN's.

Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: bluefish] #15204476 09/08/20
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Well, the mag is fine for x57 based carts and a simple fix makes the mag long enough for 06 based carts. $75 bucks to reheat treat and voila. They are very well done.


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Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: bluefish] #15204651 09/08/20
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Originally Posted by bluefish
Well, the mag is fine for x57 based carts and a simple fix makes the mag long enough for 06 based carts. $75 bucks to reheat treat and voila. They are very well done.


If you can re-heat treat a Mauser why not a low
numbers 1903 Springfield? 75$ is nothing when you consider how much one costs nowdays.

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No reason other than I like the Argie.


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Originally Posted by Filaman
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Well, the mag is fine for x57 based carts and a simple fix makes the mag long enough for 06 based carts. $75 bucks to reheat treat and voila. They are very well done.


If you can re-heat treat a Mauser why not a low
numbers 1903 Springfield? 75$ is nothing when you consider how much one costs nowdays.


The Argi Mausers are just soft. The 1903s are brittle.

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Originally Posted by bluefish
No reason other than I like the Argie.



That right there is the only reason required.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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No reason other than I like the Argie.



That right there is the only reason required.


Yep, I have two customs built on the '09 DWM actions, a 6.5x55 and 7x57, they happen to be two of the most accurate rifles I own, both bughole 140 and 175gr Partitions.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by bluefish
No reason other than I like the Argie.



That right there is the only reason required.


Absolutely. If it calls your name, ya gotta go with it.

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Yup, starting to pull the idea together. Have chatted with a top flight maker about some ideas.


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Bring yer wallet.........................

I've built on several 1909's w/o heat treating; other with heat treating...............no issues with any & I check HS regularly on them just to be sure.

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I have a pretty mint, all numbers matching DWM 1909 that I need to sell. Just need to get off my tail...


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Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: bluefish] #15222576 09/14/20
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Sweet actions. Without going the claw mount route is there a way to mount a.scope base just ahead of the front receiver ring and still achieve a low mounted scope?


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Originally Posted by bluefish
Sweet actions. Without going the claw mount route is there a way to mount a.scope base just ahead of the front receiver ring and still achieve a low mounted scope?


Anything is possible, you can solder a base on the barrel, just ahead of the receiver ring. I assume you want to avoid drilling and taping the Receiver ring? You would probably need an offset ring or a long tube on the scope. Recknagel makes rings that will clamp on the Objective bell of the scope as well to overcome the length issue.

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Thanks, Mike.


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Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: bluefish] #15226512 09/15/20
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Not being a metallurgist by trade is there anyway to know if a action was heat treated?

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One of the other big questions is concern of lug setback. How does one examine for it?


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Re: Another 1909 Argie thread [Re: captjohn] #15227677 09/16/20
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Originally Posted by captjohn
Not being a metallurgist by trade is there anyway to know if a action was heat treated?


I could be wrong but I don’t think the question is whether it was treated so much as whether it was properly treated. A Rockwell hardness test can be performed but heat treating isn’t expensive ($100?) and I had my Mexican small ring 98 done just as a precaution.


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I bought a heat treat furnace (AKA ceramic kiln). I've got several non-guns, Parker-Hale unfinished and un-numbered receivers, that need finish machining and heat treatment. It isn't rocket science to heat treat and temper a piece of steel if it's got the right alloy to begin with.


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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
I bought a heat treat furnace (AKA ceramic kiln). I've got several non-guns, Parker-Hale unfinished and un-numbered receivers, that need finish machining and heat treatment. It isn't rocket science to heat treat and temper a piece of steel if it's got the right alloy to begin with.



Sure, assuming you know the alloy? What do you do for a low carbon alloy like most Mausers are made of? What's your plan for introducing carbon into the environment?

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