Thanks for the link - sounds like an improvement over yarn and looks easier to do. I will definitely give it a try - I assume they fray out from shooting so no need to separate the strands after installing on the string?
Great link--thks. sir! I'm also a traditionalist. Have had a number of recurves over the years, but only one custom many years ago--Groves Spitfire 70 lbs, when I thought I was tough enough. Bowfishing mostly these days. Have a great bowfishing spot here in Pueblo, CO, and a little boat that gets me into the gnarly nooks and crannies there. Using an old Herters Perfection 55 lbs. (still a bit too much) as it's super-short and very maneuverable in the tight spots.
sscoyote, I'm just a very new traditional archer. Started out last spring, so almost a year I've been at it now.
My first bow was a 50# Bear Montana longbow, and unfortunately it broke at the riser on the second day. Maybe it was fate, it was really too heavy for a starter bow, but when I decided to buy it, I was at the point where I didn't know how much I didn't know.
So from there I ordered a custom from Dan Toelke. A beautiful 40# Whip longbow. That was what 'cut my teeth' with.
Since then I've accumulated a couple Bodnik Slick Sticks, in 35#, and 50#. I managed a lot of indoor shooting in the garage at 14 yards over the winter with the 35# Slick Stick It's a really nice shooting, lightweight bow.
Just recently I found this Samick Discovery and 45# limbs at a very good price, and decided to get into an ILF bow, and my first recurve.
I think I'm about done buying bows now, but maybe another set of light limbs for the Samick, something in the 30-35# range.
Anyhoo, I really enjoy it all. So much to learn around the bows, arrows, shooting, and so on. I really enjoy the mental solitude, focus, and self-control it requires.
Yeah it sure has been fun for me over the years. Still got my old 34 lb Pro Bow I started with at 17 y.o in Maine. Was able to take 2 smaller bull elk over the years with one--old American 60 pounder I think it was. Gave it to a buddies kid. Had a 55 lb. Bandito I shot one deer with and gave that one to a rancher's kid, who shot it way better than I ever could. A number of other deer were taken with a few other recurves. Hunted with compounds a lot but always was a traditionalist at heart. Have fun with it sir.
Had a buddy who wounded a bull with his recurve many years ago and it took us 2 days to find it. It was the most unusual experience I've ever had in the field. When we finally came across it buddy Paul made a lucky 70ish yd. shot and nailed it in the chest, but it still took us 3 more arrows to kill it. At the end we both stood there watching the bull die--and honestly it was heart-wrenching watching him put everything he had in him to stay alive. I'll never forget it.
Twisted up my string, brace back where it should be, back to pretty quiet. 340 spine w 125gr.............not a heavy arrow, but flies good. 300's will arrive Friday and I'll build one and see how much i can load up front. Didn't shoot today, cut down a bush/tree out front. Proly be gimped tomorrow.
More FOC and make the bow quieter. Like to end up w 100gr added.
Here's something I discovered that quieted mine a bit more.
So I started out with both tiller bolts all the way down, and the top backed out about 1/4 turn, to get tiller at the top 3-8mm more than the bottom (per owners manual).
I noticed a bit more noise than the one-piece bows, but figured that was a given, being three pieces.
Then today I noticed that the tiller bolt heads were not bearing flat against the limbs. Only the outboard point of the bolt heads were in contact with the limbs.
So I fiddled with them and found that the tiller bolt heads bear flat on the limbs about two revolutions out from bottom (there's still about 8-10 revs of bolt engagement). I tweaked the top tiller bolt to get about 1/4" positive tiller, and locked them in place. That quieted down the bow noticeably.
I'm enjoying getting outside again. The 14-yard indoor work I put in over the winter (in the garage) has helped my game at 20-25 yards noticeably.
My bow arsenal has grown to four since I started down this path about 10 months ago. Got the Toelke Whip 40#, Slick Sticks in 35# and 50#, and now this Samick in 45#. So I've got a fair spectrum of weights to work with.
Probably about done buying bows, but maybe another set of limbs for the Samick along the way.
I haven't shot any arrows since fall and am getting the bug to start up again. I've shot in the garage in the winter before but am not currently set up for it. My arsenal has grown considerably once I started making my own - have quite a pile of them laying around (and am toying with the idea of another set of ILF limbs)
I just ordered a Discovery from alternativess.com on Friday - did not see the closeout 2019's (or this post until today). I ordered the 2020 (Flat Black) with the weight and a set of 35# R3 (Carbon Foam limbs). Total shipped was $370 which was still a $100 cheaper than 3Rivers. Looks like a nice rig for under $400. Ordered a FF string from 60X and having the local shop make me up some GT Ultralight 700's to shoot out of her. Hopefully will be shooting it by the weekend.
I've been out of the recurve business for a couple seasons with a sore shoulder. Hopefully this 35#'er will let me shoot again.
FWIW: I had a Toelke Whip 33# for a while a few years ago, easily the nicest longbow I every shot. That 40#'er must be a dream to shoot.
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Alternative seems to have some of the best prices. I ordered mine on a Sunday afternoon, and it was here Tuesday afternoon, 48 hours later. I was impressed. I'll probably get a couple more R3 limb sets myself, thinking 35# and 55#, to go with the 45# I initially bought.
The 40# Toelke is really sweet. Since it was my first bow I really didn't have any experience to compare it with. Now that I have a few different bows, in different weights, I can really appreciate the Toelke.
Anyhoo, I did some bareshaft testing with a few 400/500 spines and different weight points. Seemed to find a good combo with the 30" 500 spine and 175gr up front. I need to get some 32" 500's though, I'm short-drawing a bit with these, but they fly pretty well.
Bought a Samick off of Amazon a fews years back. 64" 40#. Amazing quality for about $140. Just a toy really, but a lot of fun. Might go small game hunting after deer season. Got oodles of old arrows I don't mind losing. Have made up some homemade flu-flus by wrapping feathers around the shaft in front of the fletching.