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In town, no.

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absolutely.

ya!

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You trust your life to a "bad" pistol?

My EDC is a Wilson Combat ULC Commander after upgrading from a Dan Wesson Guardian.

Similar to slinging a bandoleer of assorted shotgun loads for your 'gage when responding to a bump in the night.


mike r

I can't see why it would matter if it's loaded with ammo that the pistol has demonstrated that it will feed. It ejects an empty case then takes the next round off the top of the magazine.

I have seen monumental failures in Hollowpoint loads. 158 gr .38 swchp shot into the forehead at room distance didnt penetrate cranium, just rang his bell good. The heavy winter clothing or leather is also a concern.

In which century did this occur?


mike r

You aint lying. Except its usually just a mix of all different brands.

Then there was the guy with .44 mag ammo in a .455 Webley. Sadly we took it away before he could touch off a round on New Years Eve.

do not have $2000 to waste on a pistol that is altered to feed hollow points. 17 shots of FMJ that feed reliably are good enough for me. do you drive around or ever driven around in a small car? you trust your life to that? get a tank

Alternately, you could buy a basic bitch Glock, Sig 320, etc. I haven't met one yet that wouldn't reliably digest whatever I feed it. Hell, if you're that concerned, get yourself a .357 Sig. Those [bleep] feed like greased goose schitt.

Probably doesn't matter because no one here has ever used a handgun for serious social work, or will. I haven't either.

About 10 years ago, when researching CCW ammo, I learned that the FBI had come up with a test supposedly simulating penetration through auto glass, auto body, heavy clothing, and so many inches (forget how many) of ballistic gelatin. The ammo companies had developed JHP loads that met the criterion.

Unless something changed, there is no purpose in using FMJ ammo. BTW: There was no difference in stopping power between 9mm, .40, and .45 ACP. You either hit the CNS or the perp bleeds out. Some different effects but only if you exceed 2000 fps. So they said.

Wtf are you talking about?

It’s 2020 not 1911, any pistol worth a [bleep] will feed a variety of ammo.

"The guy".

So, you are only prepared for a single attacker?

Sounds like limited planning.

You missed my point.

Reread.

Carefully.

I'm not going to say you're lying, but I want to share an experience reported by #2 son. He was living in a neighborhood going to $hit and one night two gangs squared off on his street and traded maybe 100 rounds at each other in a very short period of time over a distance of 60 yards. #2 and his family hit the deck and their house did not get hit. #2, at that time, worked in a sheet metal shop that hired a bunch of sincere felons. #2 asked his co-workers to explain what he'd witnessed.

One of the most dedicated hoods explained that street folk generally do not aim to kill and don't really aim when its one group going against another. This is the reason for that goofy sideways hold. The point is to stand there and take incoming fire and give it back. Someone deliberately trying to kill someone in one of these altercations is considered chicken $hit. Usually only the top hoods are allowed to do that, and when it comes it is usually right in your face. There is a general fear of engaging white guys. White guys don't play by these rules and take careful aim and get the job done. They also have the money for ammo and practice.

#2 shortly moved out of that neighborhood and went to the other side of town. I bought both #2 and #3 their CCW training when they turned 21.

Sounds like a 21st century version of "counting coup".

Yeah, not only that, but what if it's a woman?

Guess the "boys" in Chicago didn't get the memo.

Red rover, red rover... Send foeties on ovah.

What the f*ck kind/brand of pistol are you carrying for SD that has feeding issues.

If you want an inexpensive, quality, accurate and extremely reliable carry gun, take a look at the CZ's.

I have a PO-6 40 S&W that shoots anything and everything, even crusty old schit that is turning green.
I also have a CZ 75 Compact in 9MM that will do the same.

I don't think I could get these pistols to malfunction even if I wanted to.

Both were less that $600

I only shoot handloads in my carry guns.