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That is the sound of the machinery at the Columbia River salmon canneries that replaced Chinese workers and the origin of the supposed slur. 9/95 Multicultural Perspectives in Fisheries and Wildlife Management, FW1XX, Oregon State University, Dept of Fisheries and Wildlife. Professor Dr Judy Li (pronounced LEE I was informed after saying LIE).
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I read the book Alaska by John Gresham. Described the salmon canning origins. Iron Chink was described in book.
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So, Iron Chink should be flattering. LOL
I don't think Li referenced the machine itself. Didn't fit the narrative?
Why not this. Chink is a simple non-durogatory reduction of Chinese similar to: Swede, Pole, Brit, Franc, however, with a simple consonant added so it's not the body part, chin. We don't simply shorten, Switzerland is Swiss, Denmark is Dane, Greece is Greek, Philippines is Pinay or Pinoy, but, for some reason it is assumed to be negative, like Jap is. When elsewhere and referred to as a Yank, BFD.
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I just thought it was non jap asian, a mix of the word chinese and korean, shortened.
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I worked on an Iron Chink near Naknek AK in 1973. A beautiful piece of ingenious machinery, American made of course, with patent dates IIRC in the late 1800's. The cannery maintenance foreman said something like, "What we need now is for someone to invent an Iron Filipino, and my life would become simpler".
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I just bought a pair of motorcycle boots made in the USA.. they were made in Martinsburg ..by Carolina shoes. they are listed as work shoes.. very nice Boots..
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Funny this should come up. I was just thinking a couple days ago about the bear hunt I spent in a long retired cannery in Prince William Sound. In one room was an Iron Chink, complete with owner’s manual and a couple thousand cans.
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"The Iron Chink." Sounds like a WWE star.
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I read the book Alaska by John Gresham. Described the salmon canning origins. Iron Chink was described in book. James Michener wrote ALASKA and a lot of other great books.
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"The Iron Chink." Sounds like a WWE star. Now that you mention it, it does. Buy American, or at least try to buy noncom. I worked on an Iron Chink near Naknek AK in 1973. A beautiful piece of ingenious machinery, American made of course, with patent dates IIRC in the late 1800's. The cannery maintenance foreman said something like, "What we need now is for someone to invent an Iron Filipino, and my life would become simpler". LOL I just thought it was non jap asian, a mix of the word chinese and korean, shortened.
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The problem is that it is difficult to separate the derogatory nicknames from the merely familiar ones. And equally difficult to know how using either one will be taken by the listener.
A loosely related pet peeve of mine is the common "double origin" hyphenated names like African-American or Asian-American. It galls me that those who call themselves that put American second. It speaks loudly about which one they think they are. If that other place has priority in your mind, go there. And stay there.
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A loosely related pet peeve of mine is the common "double origin" hyphenated names like African-American or Asian-American. It galls me that those who call themselves that put American second. It speaks loudly about which one they think they are.
I always thought it was simply because we put the adjective before the noun in English. Makes perfect sense in that respect. I'm not sure there's any agenda involved.
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Rufus, but why the adjectival modification in the first place? It's perfectly obvious to the naked eye that one is of African or Asian descent. Why qualify or limit one's Americanism unless one values the other more than being American? It is blatantly saying "I'm only part American and that part comes second."
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The adjectives are not needed! American is the correct way to address people, in this country! When filling out the census, with all the listed options, this house just wrote AMERICAN!!
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Hi, I'm MtnBoomer white-American.
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Rufus, but why the adjectival modification in the first place? It's perfectly obvious to the naked eye that one is of African or Asian descent. Why qualify or limit one's Americanism unless one values the other more than being American? It is blatantly saying "I'm only part American and that part comes second." I'm not sure of the first usage, but suspect it originated more to itemize the different varieties of white european immigrants than those of different races. And I don't know if it was a matter of self-identification or condescending labels used by WASPs. Regardless of that, I guess my point is that I don't see it as minimizing anyone's American-ism from a grammatical point of view, how they're intending it to be perceived could be a whole different thing.
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I read the book Alaska by John Gresham. Described the salmon canning origins. Iron Chink was described in book. James Michener wrote ALASKA and a lot of other great books. He edited, not wrote. Probably the most over-rated of all "writers" of all time. I would take bamboo shoots under my fingernails over reading another book by him.
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I’d be interested in what information you have regarding the above statement. I remember him spending time aboard a Cutter in Alaska back in the early 80’s as he researched that book. It’s been my belief that he was the actual author of some of my favorites such as Chesapeake, Texas, Space and Alaska. Those books aren’t for everyone because the details can get tedious. I learned a lot from them. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’d just like to know what you’re talking about.
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