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Got my copy of The Big Book of Gun Gack III today. Looking forward to a good read.

Thanks Mule Deer and Eileen.

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Mine should be in process as well! I will have to rush it to Staples to get it spiral bound.

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Just placed my order. Thanks for the heads up

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Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Got my copy of The Big Book of Gun Gack III today. Looking forward to a good read.

Thanks Mule Deer and Eileen.

Got mine today too. Thanks John & Eileen.


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Perfect, thank you!


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Received my copies of II and III today! Time to put the little lady on the ignore list.......... it’s all John’s fault.


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We have been VERY busy getting the pretty long list of pre-orders on the way--which is why I hadn't announced anything as soon as the books arrived: We wanted to "catch up"!

Glad to know they are showing up quickly, after the USPS "summer vacation." It looks like they're back on their previous schedule, which was 3-5 business days delivery of media-mail packages.

Thanks to all who have ordered!


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Mine showed up today also, going to open it right now!


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Got my copy today. Read 22 centerfire and mountain rifle chapters.

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I am saving mine for some long sits in the ground blind archery hunting.

Table of contents has my interest peaked.


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Mine should be in process as well! I will have to rush it to Staples to get it spiral bound.


Good call! Mine keeps flipping shut on me......


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Mine showed up today too! Read a couple chapters after work....had to check the balance point of my deer rifle (5.5" in front of trigger by the way) Any idea when GG IV is coming out smile ?

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Got my GG3 in the mail today! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!


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yep got my copy of Gun Gack III looks like another great read from John ! thank you ,John


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New member to the forum. Got my GG#3 yesterday. He's done it again!

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Got mine! Thanks y'all!

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Darn, they didn`t have that either at the Hill Top Bar.

Very good read, John.

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Just got mine yesterday, and went straight to the article about modern loads in the 7x57 (duh). The rest of the book will be read one chapter in the evening, just before lights out. I got to make it last till Gack IV comes out.

BTW, John, that's a fine looking rifle leaning against that moose.

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Damn! Nothing yet. Of course, since they screwed with our post office a few years ago, we see stuff two to seven days after everyone else. I was sick a few years ago. The get well card from work took four days to get to me, and I live a mile and a half from the office.



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GG III arrived today.

Well done, lots of good stuff.

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Originally Posted by shootinurse
Damn! Nothing yet. Of course, since they screwed with our post office a few years ago, we see stuff two to seven days after everyone else. I was sick a few years ago. The get well card from work took four days to get to me, and I live a mile and a half from the office.
Have faith. Mine just got here today and, if it can get past the New Orleans logjam, anything is possible.

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Received mine today.....Like RevMike - the 7x57 article caught my eye and will be read this evening.

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Mine arrived today - haven't had time to unpack it yet.


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mine came today will look it over tonight!

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Originally Posted by shootinurse
Damn! Nothing yet. Of course, since they screwed with our post office a few years ago, we see stuff two to seven days after everyone else. I was sick a few years ago. The get well card from work took four days to get to me, and I live a mile and a half from the office.


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Hoping mine arrives today.


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Hey John...just finished chapter 19..expansion of hunting bullets...worth the cost of the book in it`s own right. Anyway that chapter could be incorporated into Hunter Safety programs as required reading? Excellent info. Maybe you could start the ball rolling in Mt. by donating the chapter to them. Start the new hunters off with a proven example of how bullets really work.
Looking forward to more good things to come..

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It has arrived!!! Had to read the 7x57 chapter immediately. Now I can get on with my life, reading a couple chapters each evening while sipping a suitable libation.



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Originally Posted by shootinurse
It has arrived!!! Had to read the 7x57 chapter immediately. Now I can get on with my life, reading a couple chapters each evening while sipping a suitable libation.


It was warm out last evening, so my usual straight whisky and full bodied cigar were out. Cutty and Soda on the rocks and a mild Montecristo White filled in quite nicely.

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Just placed my international order, to take advantage of Eileens sale on
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Will advise about structural damage to my credit wrt shipping charges.

If there’s a GAck IV, we have to talk seriously about an e format volume !


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Hoping mine arrives today.


The pre-ordered books did NOT all go out at the same time. There were so many it took four days to package and mail them, so some will be arriving later, both due to that and the variability in distance from here. The good news is that, in general, the post office is doing a lot better than during its summer "vacation."

That said, if yours doesn't show up this week, e-mail Eileen: riflesandrecipesgmail.com


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Originally Posted by 338Rules
Just placed my international order, to take advantage of Eileens sale on
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Will advise about structural damage to my credit wrt shipping charges.

If there’s a GAck IV, we have to talk seriously about an e format volume !


I have explained here why we don't do e-versions of our books. There are two ways to do it: One is easily pirated, and the other tends to garble numbers/data, which doesn't work with handloading or game recipes.


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Mine arrived today. Chuckled when I saw that some of the 'fire members achieved a minor level of immortality in it.


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Just placed my international order, to take advantage of Eileens sale on
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Will advise about structural damage to my credit wrt shipping charges.

If there’s a GAck IV, we have to talk seriously about an e format volume !


I have explained here why we don't do e-versions of our books. There are two ways to do it: One is easily pirated, and the other tends to garble numbers/data, which doesn't work with handloading or game recipes.


I can attest to that. I tried an ebook version of a 303 British book, and the columns were skewed. It turned out bad, so I yanked it and returned to paper.

Paper needs no Internet connection, or tablet/laptop. No power source either. You can read a book comfortably, while sitting on the privy at moose camp! laugh


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Just ordered a set of GG III.

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Got mine today.


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Got mine in Ohio today too.

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Got mine in Oklahoma today; my order was "complete" the evening of the 16th, so I guess that is 7 days from Montana to Oklahoma.

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That's pretty much in line with the long-time estimate for USPS media-mail, which is 3-5 "business days"--meaning weekdays.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Hoping mine arrives today.


The pre-ordered books did NOT all go out at the same time. There were so many it took four days to package and mail them, so some will be arriving later, both due to that and the variability in distance from here. The good news is that, in general, the post office is doing a lot better than during its summer "vacation."

That said, if yours doesn't show up this week, e-mail Eileen: riflesandrecipesgmail.com

Gotcha.


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Mine showed up in AZ today.
Thanks John and Eileen!


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I spent the afternoon at the rifle range today. I shot 5-shot and 3-shot groups at 100 yards. I loaded 50 rounds yesterday and tried them in the two rifles that are candidates for taking hunting in November. When I returned home Gun Gack III was waiting for me. I found myself nodding along with the chapter on rifle accuracy and the one on shooting at 100 yards. I was disappointed with one rifle but after reading GGIII, I realized that 5 shots into 1.1" was probably pretty good. I also was reminded that the other rifle probably would not shoot 5 shots into 0.32 inches as it did three shots. I don't know if it or I consistently shoot that well because I stopped after the first group-three shots touching one inch high at 100 yards-and declared victory. Now all I have to do is not mess with it for 6 weeks. What I need is an article on how not to mess with things that are where I want them.

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I got mine today. Can't put it down. Nice job, John

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I gotta give out a public Thank You to John

On the pages of GG3 you gave the Frankenstud Sling Keeper and myself ink.

I am humbled Sir.....Thank You


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It was my pleasure! The Frankenstud has made my hunting life easier....


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell


You can read a book comfortably, while sitting on the privy at moose camp! laugh

Or a privy anywhere else for that matter! laugh



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Got my copy today! smile


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Good!

That's not out-of-line for media mail--especially for where you live...
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Mine came today. Much better than the delivery of GGII

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Got mine a couple days ago. Cause for a couple sleepless nights of reading and now I'm sad that I'm done. But, there's always GG IV to look forward to, right, right?! (If I can burn the midnight oil reading it, you can do the same writing it, John!!😀)


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We are already thinking of GG IV, though Eileen has another game cookbook to bring out next year.


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GG IV... with the title of "Back for More." wink


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Dunno yet--but what we are thinking of might surprise you!


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
We are already thinking of GG IV, though Eileen has another game cookbook to bring out next year.


Looking forward to it!

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My copy arrived yesterday, many thanks!

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Dunno yet--but what we are thinking of might surprise you!


Can't wait!


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Glad to hear that!

Apparently from the reader reactions (and my daily exercise taking boxes of books to the P.O.) GG3 seems to be OK....


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Mine arrived today. The lady that packs them (and lets you live with her) did her usual fine job of packaging. Thank her for me.

Oh, and the book looks good too!


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I'm nearly done...it was a good read. Especially enjoyed the chapters on rifle balance and how bullets expand.

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Thanks! More than one reader has said they like the info on how bullets expand.


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JB, mine arrived today...I really enjoyed the intro, something I would usually skim over. Thumbed through the rest and looks like I have a few hours of good reading ahead.

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Mine has just arrived overseas!

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Alvaro,

Thanks for the report! Hope you like it.


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Hey John:

Like everyone else I'm really enjoying Gack III. I have a quick question, though. On page 80 there's a picture of a person kneeling beside an antelope, and from the bolt release it looks like the rifle - or at least the action - is by the late Montana Rifle Company. But I would swear that the barrel has a step in it, which is not something that MRC ever did to my knowledge. Can you shed any light on it?

Once again, thanks for all you do for us.


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Mike,

Yeah, now that you pointed it out, it does look like that.

But I looked at the original digital color photo closely (meaning I "blew" it up on my computer screen) and the barrel has a camo finish--which isn't visible in the black-and-white conversion. The "step" is actually a pale line in the camo.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Just placed my international order, to take advantage of Eileens sale on
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Will advise about structural damage to my credit wrt shipping charges.

If there’s a GAck IV, we have to talk seriously about an e format volume !


I have explained here why we don't do e-versions of our books. There are two ways to do it: One is easily pirated, and the other tends to garble numbers/data, which doesn't work with handloading or game recipes.


USPS parcel arrived today ! Thanks
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I concede defeat to media rate shipping. i ordered in good time, hoped to give it as a birthday present to family member, and buy my copy shortly thereafter. No Book still don't have one, I have had bigger, and more costly disappointments from USPS....., frantic scramble to find substitute gift...... ( really wasn't necessary , I told them he came home to the ranch to shoot doves. 4 hunts, 4 limits handled the gift in my mind.....)
Can I just call , give a credit card, and pay for FIRST class postage, and hope to get one....
I'm not a kid needing instant gratification, but at age 70 , I am interested in reading it before I pass.

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Sorry to hear about that. We generally have had media-rate books show up in West Texas in a few days, including several recently. But Eileen needs to your real name to track down the problem, or correct it. You can call 406-521-0273 or e-mail riflesandrecipesgmail.com.


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mel5141,

So did you contact Eileen? We've only had about half a dozen orders not show up in over a decade of mailing tens of thousands of books--and her policy (the website is her company) is to ship another book when one fails to arrive. But she can't do that unless you tell her. (Usually the original order eventually shows up--once in a great while a book gets caught in what we call the Denver Vortex, where it stays for up to a month before finally spinning out of the trap. In that case you can keep it too.)


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I know this doesn't help things John, but you are not alone. I have had more books disappear since COVID 19 started. I am not sure why. The only thing I do know is that the books were in the custody of the post office, a branch of the federal government. And as we all know, the government does not make mistakes. crazy So...what happened to them?



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This is the first one that disappeared of ours--though some were delayed while the USPS was taking it's "summer vacation," when sorting machines were being removed from USPS offices.

What's interesting about mel5141's post is that he has STILL not contacted Eileen (who is know for good customer service), and in fact hasn't even logged onto the Campfire since his post. Her phone # and e-mail address are right at the top of the www.riflesandrecipes.com home page, if some problem occurs--but instead he chose to whine here.


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I wouldn't worry about him, John. He's likely a heckler. If he has a legitimate problem, he knows what to do.


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Thanks Steve. Was never worried, but am ticked off. It's easy enough to contact Eileen and correct the problem.

If he'd called to order the book and mentioned it was a time-related gift, she would have suggested priority mail rather than media mail. But media mail has been working well again lately.


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W don't need any more whiny little b!tches; but yet, there he is! Mel5141, LOL

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Mel just PM'd me. There were extenuating circumstances on his side, the reason he did not respond here, and everything is OK.


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Mr. Barsness, I have just sent you a PM . I hope this is a satisfactory reply...... If it is not fully explanatory, I will forward a personal cell phone via PM . Due to physical limitations, I talk much better than I type. ....... I am not very smart, but sparring with a professional wordsmith on a "net" site is a battle I'll likely not prevail in. I think I have explained in the PM that our "commerce" is satisfactorily concluded.

As to the other rather derogatory insults slung by so freely by Mr. Redgwell...... Heckler, hardly I have so much more to do......

Mr. Wam???? or whatever your name is??? Little bitches? Whiny........ I hope I would not convey that impression, I don't know you , but I would hardly take it upon myself to assassinate your character in print, My post was not about you, but rather a comment on the lack of service available from the USPS. Why do you choose to insult me when you don't know me? Would you do the same in person????? Oh, I forgot, it is the internet.....

Now Mr. WAM, in the interest of transparency, my name is Paul Melton....... Whiney??? I think you will have to hunt hard to find anyone in the Sporting or Business world that would describe me as such.
i am sure your 2386 post here are your total joy in life........You will have to live a HELL of a life to have been to the places I have been and do the things I have done.......
I guess....About enough campfire for me , forever.
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Mel just PM'd me. There were extenuating circumstances on his side, the reason he did not respond here, and everything is OK.


It appears that he had a legitimate concern, and knew what to do.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Thanks Steve. Was never worried, but am ticked off. It's easy enough to contact Eileen and correct the problem.

If he'd called to order the book and mentioned it was a time-related gift, she would have suggested priority mail rather than media mail. But media mail has been working well again lately.


Dang calm down.. breath in, breath out.. wax on, wax off...


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I wouldn't worry about him, John. He's likely a heckler. If he has a legitimate problem, he knows what to do.


Damn...... mr Canada jumped in it as well.... go get you a donut and coffee from jimmy Horton or whatever that joint is called..


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by WAM
W don't need any more whiny little b!tches; but yet, there he is! Mel5141, LOL


Uh oh tough guy alert ..


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Man I was going order one of these fancy books, until muledeers henchmen showed up and started bullying a 70 year old man

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Once Eileen had Mel's name, she tracked the package:

It was delivered to his PO on September 23, but he had a hold on his mail delivery. Supposedly it was delivered yesterday, apparently after theh old was lifted. PM'd Mel to confirm whether he got it.


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In general the USPS has done a very good job with our media-mailing of hundreds of copies of GG3 in the past month (and a bunch of our other books--Eileen's game cookbooks have been heading out regularly as well), and so far when customers haven't received them within the 5-7 workdays the USPS predicts for media mail it's not because the book(s) didn't arrive at their PO in the predicted time. Mel's book, for instance, was mailed on Wednesday, September 9, and made it to his PO in Texas in five working days.

Another customer e-mailed Eileen today, saying his hadn't shown up either. He pre-ordered in August, and like almost all the pre-orders it was mailed from September 9th to 11th. Eileen checked the tracking # and it also made it to his PO in the 5-7 working days--but has been sitting in a locker there, apparently because his PO box wasn't quite large enough for it. Dunno if his PO failed to inform him--we have the same locker-delivery now and then, and they leave a locker key in our box--but that can happen, though in my experience very rarely.


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As noted earlier, Eileen advises that any book that HAS to be there by a certain date should go priority mail. Several people have asked about how much more that costs.

Since media-mail averages about three bucks per book, the extra cost for priority varies from about $4 in nearby states to as much as $7 in Alaska. But if somebody orders two books, the extra cost per book is about half as much.


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John:

I'm slowly working through G-3 and read the chapter on chronographs last night. You saved me $559!!! laugh

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Aha!

Yeah, the LabRadar is a fine unit--within its limitations. If they over solve those I'll buy another....


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Hey John

I just started reading Gun Gack III. You’ve hit a home run. You and Eileen both do an excellent job presenting very useful information with an interesting and entertaining writing style—true professionals. The book looks good too. Thanks again!

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Thanks very much for all your comments!

Copies keep heading out the door--along with the first two GUN GACKS. In fact we had to reprint GG1 for the 6th or 7th time this year, and a lot of folks are buying Eileen's game cookbooks as well.


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