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Originally Posted by Fireball2
People are so fundamentally dishonest and dishonorable I wonder why God tolerates us at all.

it is the devil doing the tolerating. satan controls the world and it seems god does not do sh it

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Maybe it’s time for McConnell to take the gloves off and beat them to the punch




I think Mitch does get it, but he's got to manage all his members & keep them in line. There are at least 3 automatic defectors, so he really can't afford to lose anymore.

I'll be happy if he can just get one justice through right now.

As far as increasing the size of SCOTUS, I'm not sure that can be done w/o a constitutional amendment which requires 2/3 or 3/4 (can't remember which) of states to approve.

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There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates the number of SC Justices. It has fluctuated over the years.


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Originally Posted by viking
One woman has a hard time making up their mind in a timely manner. God help us...




It's not just one. But, one of the two may be out soon, replaced by a dhim.

(Susan Collins)


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Packing the court would take a (D) takeover of the Senate and the White House and THEN, they'd have to be able to get nominees through the confirmation process.

Our best tactic is to basically ignore the threat and instead work on getting the traitors out of our midst. I.e., quislings like Mitten, Collins, Murkowski, etc.. Those are the people who pose the most immediate threat, since they will do the bidding of the Dems and confirm justices if the Dems take over (and they'll also try to stymie the replacement of RBG in the next month or two).

Living in MT, though I don't like Daines, he's now going to get money from me because I know that flipping one or two Senate seats is going to make a huge difference and I know the Dems are going to use this as a way to put even more money into Bullock's campaign (and get the liberal base here riled up).

The first order of business should be to provide support to any (R) Senator who is in a close race right now, then work on getting conservative candidates ready for the next Senate election, and of course keep the White House.

Remember, as long as President Trump is re-elected, the Dems can take the Senate and pack the court with open spaces, but President Trump doesn't have to nominate anyone. In fact, the (D)'s are making the case right now that a vacancy doesn't have to be filled by the sitting President. As long as there is not a supermajority of (D)s in the Senate, they won't be able to convict and remove even if the House again impeaches a second term President Trump, so all the cards are in his hands as long as he wins in November.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Then, what's to stop them from adding another 5 after we add 5? The real question should be, how do we set in stone the number on the Court so this game is off the table?

The only way to set it in stone is a constitutional amendment. As that would take ratification by 75% of the states, the Dems likely couldn't get it done. There are more small red states than large blue one.

But that's just it. I don't believe the number of justices are defined in writing in the Constitution. My point was how do WE set in stone the current number of justices? Sounds like it would require an amendment. In the absence of that, politicians will be playing this game forever now that the Dems put it on the table.


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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
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Short term thats nice, long term will bite you in the ass.
So what? The Dems will do it as soon as they are in power. Beat them to the punch. It's time to quit playing patty-cake and man the eff up.


I understand but at the same time when dems get control of senate "our" rules will bite us in the ass. Keep it the frick how it is. Get another young constitutionalist and with the "younger " court, we are good.


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Key always comes back to controlling the Senate. Nice to have the House as well as we would have avoided the hole impeachment drama which wasnt going anywhere. If you keep control of the Whitehouse and the Senate you can control the courts.


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What do you think the dimocrats would be doing in this situation, if the scenario were reversed?

They would be pounding in another justice.

They may scream and cry, but they would be doing the same thing.

F' em.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
What do you think the dimocrats would be doing in this situation, if the scenario were reversed?

They would be pounding in another justice.

They may scream and cry, but they would be doing the same thing.

F' em.

Yep.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
What do you think the dimocrats would be doing in this situation, if the scenario were reversed?

They would be pounding in another justice.

They may scream and cry, but they would be doing the same thing.

F' em.



The problem is that the (D) leadership controls their individual members and can get near unanimous party line votes. Republicans are getting better at this, but there are still too many Republican Senators who refuse to act in the interest of the country.


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McConnell’s job is to bring them in line with the party.

He has done some good work with the judges and justices, be he has yet to unify his people.

Get with it Mitch.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Short term thats nice, long term will bite you in the ass.
So what? The Dems will do it as soon as they are in power. Beat them to the punch. It's time to quit playing patty-cake and man the eff up.


I understand but at the same time when dems get control of senate "our" rules will bite us in the ass. Keep it the frick how it is. Get another young constitutionalist and with the "younger " court, we are good.


Bull Schit

If we play by the rules now, as soon as they gain power they will change the rules to suit their agenda, no matter how we play.

Changing the rules now can only benefit us, cuz anyone with two brain cells left to rub together knows they will change them as soon as they are in power regardless of what we do.


I know they will change the rules. I dont know the answer. Politicians feel they don't work for us and do whatever they want. Short term I want the court in our favor. This election will be contested and will end up at SCOTUS. Get another right leaning justice now. Keep the senate in the R side and go from there.

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It's sad to know that decisions coming from the Supreme Court are often based on political leanings rather than law!

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Payback for ramming Obamacare down our throats.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Short term thats nice, long term will bite you in the ass.
So what? The Dems will do it as soon as they are in power. Beat them to the punch. It's time to quit playing patty-cake and man the eff up.


I understand but at the same time when dems get control of senate "our" rules will bite us in the ass. Keep it the frick how it is. Get another young constitutionalist and with the "younger " court, we are good.


Bull Schit

If we play by the rules now, as soon as they gain power they will change the rules to suit their agenda, no matter how we play.

Changing the rules now can only benefit us, cuz anyone with two brain cells left to rub together knows they will change them as soon as they are in power regardless of what we do.
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Originally Posted by DonFischer
It's sad to know that decisions coming from the Supreme Court are often based on political leanings rather than law!


So true Don. Right now 9 can't even agree when it comes to the constitution, due to their beliefs. Let's throw 20+, yeah that will work

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Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
What do you think the dimocrats would be doing in this situation, if the scenario were reversed?

They would be pounding in another justice.

They may scream and cry, but they would be doing the same thing.

F' em.

Yep.
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Bottom line is the Dems just want to create a third legislative body and legislate from the bench.


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Originally Posted by DonFischer
It's sad to know that decisions coming from the Supreme Court are often based on political leanings rather than law!



Their decisions should have absolutely nothing to do with "law" either.

Laws are legislated.

The Constitution was written, adopted and ratified by all states of the Union to limit the powers of federal gov't.

The Constitution is the only document the SC should be concerned with. Ever.

Not legislation. Not partisanship. But 100% US Constitution.


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