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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #13040424 08/06/18
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Remington cut the 444 from the lineup when they took Marlin over. Since then they bring a mint.


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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: moosemike] #13048696 08/09/18
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I actually have a "Remlin" 444 circa 2011 with beautiful wood and a tack driver to boot!

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #13049074 08/10/18
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I have no idea how a remlin got out the door with wood like that!


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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #13049185 08/10/18
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Me either. I got it cheap too. The previous owner had feed issues and sent it back to the factory for repairs. Apparently the owner lost interest after that and posted it for sale. The rifle languished in the classifieds without a single hit for about two weeks so I made a modest offer. The seller accepted. I have since had the action smoothed and the trigger set at a crisp 3 lbs.

The checkering on the buttstock appears to be cut. The theory among the guys at Marlin Owners is that the wood was left over from previous manufacture and just assembled by Remington. In essence, I may have JM wood. LOL


This rifle shares space with seven other 444s. I am a 444 fan. :-)

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #13049228 08/10/18
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I have a Remlin Side S/N 444 too with nice wood and ballard rifling marked with astrix. Mine had feed issues too and went to the repair center. They failed at fixing it so I fixed it myself.

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: TexasShooter] #13064403 08/16/18
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Originally Posted by TexasShooter
Me either. I got it cheap too. The previous owner had feed issues and sent it back to the factory for repairs. Apparently the owner lost interest after that and posted it for sale. The rifle languished in the classifieds without a single hit for about two weeks so I made a modest offer. The seller accepted. I have since had the action smoothed and the trigger set at a crisp 3 lbs.

The checkering on the buttstock appears to be cut. The theory among the guys at Marlin Owners is that the wood was left over from previous manufacture and just assembled by Remington. In essence, I may have JM wood. LOL


This rifle shares space with seven other 444s. I am a 444 fan. :-)

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That's pretty cool. I always preferred the 45-70 and 450M. Only since 444 prices skyrocketed have I decided I need one. frown

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: moosemike] #13064480 08/16/18
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I was looking for a 444 and couldn't find one. I did find an 1895 and called it good enough. Eventually I found a 444. Now that I have them both I found out I was right in the first place and prefer the 444. Flatter trajectory and less recoil. The trajectory is nearly identical to a .30-30, but hits nearly as hard as a .45-70 with less recoil. A real Goldilocks.


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Originally Posted by Youper
I was looking for a 444 and couldn't find one. I did find an 1895 and called it good enough. Eventually I found a 444. Now that I have them both I found out I was right in the first place and prefer the 444. Flatter trajectory and less recoil. The trajectory is nearly identical to a .30-30, but hits nearly as hard as a .45-70 with less recoil. A real Goldilocks.


Now you convinced me that I do need a 444...


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Get you one Mike! You won't regret it. The 444 is easy to handload too! - T.S.


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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: TexasShooter] #13077397 08/22/18
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Originally Posted by TexasShooter
Get you one Mike! You won't regret it. The 444 is easy to handload too! - T.S.


Very true , easiest cartridge I've ever loaded for.

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: TexasShooter] #13079723 08/23/18
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Originally Posted by TexasShooter
Get you one Mike! You won't regret it. The 444 is easy to handload too! - T.S.


I'm trying to wait for Marlin to reintroduce it. They promise it every year.


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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: moosemike] #13080228 08/23/18
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Get you one Mike! You won't regret it. The 444 is easy to handload too! - T.S.


I'm trying to wait for Marlin to reintroduce it. They promise it every year.



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Get you one Mike! You won't regret it. The 444 is easy to handload too! - T.S.


I'm trying to wait for Marlin to reintroduce it. They promise it every year.



Don't pass up a used JM if it's priced right.


I won't. But they never seem to be anymore.


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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #15241386 09/20/20
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Here is a question for you 444 guys.i just bought a jm Marlin in 444 but hasn't gotten in my hands yet.wondering since this is my first Marlin lever gun, what scope would you guys put on it.im hunting deer in fairly heavy cover in pa.i have other magnum and 257 Bob rifles, but got the 444 itch.what you say?longest shot in open country is 200 yards.thanks in advance.

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I have a 444. I put a 1x3 weaver new scope on it. Perfection

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Originally Posted by SLDUCK
I have a 444. I put a 1x3 weaver new scope on it. Perfection

Wish I'd picked up a few of them before they got discontinued. A pox be upon the management of Vista Outdoor.

Originally Posted by hazer
Here is a question for you 444 guys.i just bought a jm Marlin in 444 but hasn't gotten in my hands yet.wondering since this is my first Marlin lever gun, what scope would you guys put on it.im hunting deer in fairly heavy cover in pa.i have other magnum and 257 Bob rifles, but got the 444 itch.what you say?longest shot in open country is 200 yards.thanks in advance.

I don't think there's much difference in scope requirement over the standard 336 discussed in this thread Scope for new 336 30-30 other than perhaps one might want to ensure his final selection has ample eye relief for heavier loads.

I tend to agree with SLDUCK. The slimmer scopes with moderate magnification, long eye relief and good FOV like the Weaver V 1-3 or the Leupold 1.5-5 are good choices. Some might want a 32 mm or larger objective for the lowest light conditions though. Judgment call.

Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #15244712 09/21/20
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I want them all, Winchesters, Marlins, etc. My name is Steve, I'm a gunaholic!!!

I got a Mod 94 Win. in .44 mag. and .356 Win. and a Mirkou Mod. 71 in .348 Ackley Improved and a Marlin 1895 in 45-70. I only hunt Alaska and feel bigger bullets are better for the most part and rarely shoot past 200 yards. That .444 Marlin with 300 grain bullets looks like a good one to me. Bad as I want one at 70 I don't see myself using all the guns I have. I have long felt an old style lever gun in .35 caliber tossing 225 to 250 grain bullets at 35 Whelen velocities would be a the best for hunting North America. Which is why I added a .348 Ackley Improved to my meager arsenal.

Truth be told all of my lever guns except for the .44 mag. will kill Alaska's game at 200 yards all day long, but a .348 Ackley and 45-70 just kills them deader. So would the 444 Marlin with the right load. If ya want a big thumper then grab one, my 45-70 is a comfort to me when messing around in the woods up here. If I was only hunting state side I would pass on a 45-70 and grab a .444 Marlin.

Winchester has it's own charisma and the Mod. 94's are sleek light weight easy packing power houses, but when it comes to ease of maintenance the Marlin wins hands down. Our biggest obstacle is the bullet makers cater to the long range guys. None of them are staying late at the shop in an effort to make us better flat nosed bullets bullets and our chosen calibers are only as good as their available bullets.

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Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: SLDUCK] #15254066 09/24/20
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Originally Posted by SLDUCK
I have a 444. I put a 1x3 weaver new scope on it. Perfection



The Weaver 1-3 is just about purfect

Re: Marlin 1895 versus 444...etc. [Re: Angus1895] #15279752 10/03/20
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I finally got a Ballard 444 p. Haven't shot it yet!

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