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Well I came in to a good deal on several pounds of 3031 and would like to burn some of it in my 260. Not a lot of data out there. Anyone ever use it with 100 gr. bullets?


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You would be better served w/ 4350 burn rate powders.


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If you have a 308 hanging around it would be a very good 3031 disposal unit as long as you're not after the very top velocities.

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If you have a 308 hanging around it would be a very good 3031 disposal unit as long as you're not after the very top velocities.


I like the way you phrased that...

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Thanks. Some of the old school loads work very well in the 308. I've shot a few half moa ten shot groups with my 40X using 3031 and a 168. Speed is about 2550 fps.

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Originally Posted by rickt300
Well I came in to a good deal on several pounds of 3031 and would like to burn some of it in my 260. Not a lot of data out there. Anyone ever use it with 100 gr. bullets?


Funny you should mention this....just loaded up ten of those rounds since huntin season starts next Saturday...

Maybe folks around here don't use much 3031.. I certainly do.. because its accurate as hell..

I am using up some of the 1500 of the old Hornady 100 gr SP....

Got 10 more loaded up with the 100 gr Ballistic Tip.... both with 35 grains...

if someone thinks a 100 grainer at say 2900 fps MV won't drop a blacktail or white tail easily past 250 yds, hasn't used 3031 or 100 grain bullets out of a 260....

and with 100 grainers, actually powders faster than 4350 will give faster velocity than 4350...

I wouldn't go with 4350 or slower burn rate until 140 grain bullets... maybe 140s...

I've been using the 260 since 1998 when it came out...so I've got a year or two or more experience with it under my belt...

3031 is always accurate in about any cartridge I've used it on....4064 is the powder I normally reach for...

Lately I've just been in a mood playing with 3031 in my 22.250 I've been taking to the range...


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I like what seems like lowered muzzle blast and the accuracy also I have gotten using 3031 in virtually every round I have loaded it in. If you load it to the pressure levels it works best at is it a very clean burning powder. Seafire is 35.0 grains a max load?


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I'm unsure if 260 Rem is larger or smaller in case capacity than 6.5x55, but Hornady #3 lists 3031/100s in 6.5x55 as 33.8 @2500fps to 38.3 @ 2800fps. That should get you in the ballpark anyway. I've used 3031 from 22-250 thru 35 Whelen with good results. It's a very useful powder. Long & crunchy, but useful.


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https://archive.org/details/19414482-imr-reloading-manual/page/52/mode/2up?q=260+Remington

This is a pretty cool link I found while looking into it. There is a lot more to be found on this site also.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
I like what seems like lowered muzzle blast and the accuracy also I have gotten using 3031 in virtually every round I have loaded it in. If you load it to the pressure levels it works best at is it a very clean burning powder. Seafire is 35.0 grains a max load?


Rick:, I've quit chasing max loads quite a few year ago, when a little thought dawned on me, that by raising elevation two clicks on the scope, could compensate for the trajectory, when a round is 100 to 150 fps less than max load...

35 grains is just a round number and works just fine for distances I shoot..... just checked, actually max load listed on my main Source... Steve's Reloading pages.. is 35.5...

If someone is looking for max velocity with a 100 grainer out of a 260 Rem, then I use 43.5 grains of 4064...
it yields 3350 fps out of a 22 inch Stainless barrel from a Ruger 77 Mk 2...the 26 inch barrel out of a Rem VLS, that yield 3450 fps MV...3450 on the open range with a Nosler 100 Grain Partition, is pretty impressive in the results dept...

And the recoil/ muzzle blast with 4064 is equivalent in my book to 3031...

I rationalize a lot of this more than most folks.... considering 90 % of most game is killed at 100 yds or less, and 99% is taken at 200 yds or less...if an antelope is 14 inches from breast bone to backbone, you cut that in half as your window of opportunity, that gives you a 7 inch window... any spitzer bullet regardless of caliber, if it starts with an MV of 2250 fps ( 30/30 speeds)...if zeroed 3.5 inches high at 100 yds, it should be pretty much dead on at 200 yds, and 3.5 inches low at about 240 yds. Point Blank Range... so 3350 fps MV is pretty flat shooting...

I've shot several black tails over the years with a truck hood as a rest, at 300 yds plus with 100 grain Noslers, with the scope set on 4 power... recoil was slight enough, that I never lost site picture of the deer via the scope...

kinda why I like the 260 Rem...I gather the Creed is another of the same animal in a different box......


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Originally Posted by rickt300
https://archive.org/details/19414482-imr-reloading-manual/page/52/mode/2up?q=260+Remington

This is a pretty cool link I found while looking into it. There is a lot more to be found on this site also.


The old IMR Brown Sheet digitalized on the computer.... that was my main source of load data for a decade or two...

except I was old school and using the Brown Sheets themselves.... Seafire and Fred Flintstone are ALWAYS on the same wave length....

was at the range a couple weeks ago.. Some guy was shooting a 22.250 he'd just got, with the fancy scope etc, had the ballistic program on his smart phone etc... he was shooting at something at 600 meters, and kept working over his smart phone and that ballistic calculator...then take another shot and miss...steel plate...I adjusted my scope setting on the elevation knob, hit it on the second shot and then rang it 4 more times in a row, before he was ready to try his next shot...

I think trigger time getting familiar with something, works a lot better than all of these high tech gizmos.. which probably work great... except I think the biggest problem with them at our range... is most of the guys who buy em, can't figure out how to reach their intended potential...and by the time they figured the info they need in the field, the animal is halfway to Texas by then....


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I have one of the old brown booklets but it was printed before the 260 came out. I like the way they tested every powder they made for pistols and rifles at the time in every cartridge. Where I became a I4227 fan.

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Well I burned 40 rounds loaded with the 3031. Thirty of them were 32.5 grains of it under a Barnes 140 gr. Matchburner sparked with a CCI 250. Cases were already sized and primed waiting on the 100 gr. Partitions but I felt I would see how good I could get 3031 to shoot with the match bullets. I absolutely was not disappointed. I got ten in just under an inch. Not as good as what I can do with my favorite 4350 load but plenty good for general purposes. And it is windy today good thing I only shot at 100 yards. As for velocity the old Dupont manual says 2500 fps plus or minus a few feet per second. The last ten were some crappy seconds 130 gr. ELDM bullets I used to fireform some cases to my chamber made from 7-08 brass. All ten went into 2 inches and the cases came out looking perfect.


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So for some reason I decided to form some 260 brass from some Federal and PPU 308 brass I have laying around. The PPU brass was one pass through the 260 die and the Federal brass had to be run through a 7-08 die and then through a 260 die to keep it from collapsing at the shoulder. Of couse this had to be fireformed to my chamber so I loaded up the PPU brass with 90 gr. Speer TNT's and 35.0 grains if I3031. Accuracy is just fine with the newly formed brass and a very pleasant load to shoot it is. I ditched the bipod and shot off of couple different rests, every round fired would have dusted a Prairie dog out to 200 yards.

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Well I came in to a good deal on several pounds of 3031 and would like to burn some of it in my 260. Not a lot of data out there. Anyone ever use it with 100 gr. bullets?


Funny you should mention this....just loaded up ten of those rounds since huntin season starts next Saturday...

Maybe folks around here don't use much 3031.. I certainly do.. because its accurate as hell..

I am using up some of the 1500 of the old Hornady 100 gr SP....

Got 10 more loaded up with the 100 gr Ballistic Tip.... both with 35 grains...

if someone thinks a 100 grainer at say 2900 fps MV won't drop a blacktail or white tail easily past 250 yds, hasn't used 3031 or 100 grain bullets out of a 260....

and with 100 grainers, actually powders faster than 4350 will give faster velocity than 4350...

I wouldn't go with 4350 or slower burn rate until 140 grain bullets... maybe 140s...

I've been using the 260 since 1998 when it came out...so I've got a year or two or more experience with it under my belt...

3031 is always accurate in about any cartridge I've used it on....4064 is the powder I normally reach for...

Lately I've just been in a mood playing with 3031 in my 22.250 I've been taking to the range...


Seafire have you changed your old I4064 loads over to 3031? I have found your old 4064 load quite accurate in my 700 260 SF going to try the 100TTSX this year after many whitetails harvested with the 120TSX at 2900ish.

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Nope Scottish.....just at times, I play around with something, to scratch and itch...

4064 is my main go to powder for the 243, 260 and 7/08, 6mm Rem, 6.5 x 57, 6.5 x 55....

3031 is my go to powder in the 7 x 57...


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