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Name the last time we had a well financed and well organized Marxist Revolution in the country? Things have changed.

Unless you are Kyle Rittenhouse, an idealistic young man who picked a heck of a good deed to do in that war zone, I'd say ......

........you just never know.

If / then scenarios can go on and on.
I'm just recalling the personal life lessons, so YMWV
Your mileage WILL vary.

1. There's too many variables and situations.
In hindsight even the young kyle would have stayed home that night.
Some here never go to town, unless its full of prairy dogs. Some live in Chicago maybe.

2. If you are going into a known conflict and arming for it, then chances are you work for uncle sam or the local paramil forces....normally leos.
Then that decision has been made for you. It's all uniform and you are g.i.ssue. That's not most of this audience.

3. Carry what you have the most experience with and will have with you considering weather/ clothing, comfort, etc. Extra mags are a good idea, as is a baton, bug repellent... habanero pepper flavoured....flash light. But how often will someone without a huge duty belt who is not leo carry all that?
That's why your choices may change as do circumstances. Priorities change. Keep in mind that not all threats require lethal force. A non lethal force multiplier is more likely to be required. Training in non/ less lethal force multipliers is a good idea too.

4. Your biggest threat would likely be the one(s) you don't expect. There's book shelves of information online and print on situational awareness, etc. That's good to be familiar with. However, what if you are caught off guard because you're asleep at home or away? Example...The weapon might not be within reach. What do you do?
This is why I believe that training in multiple scenareos
is most helpful.

5. You can't choose your enemies/attackers, but you can choose your weapons, training, and practice.

6. Most importantly, if / when you buy the farm, you better know the Judge.

7. If you know the Judge's Son, and befriend Him, he will be there with you through every threat.... even when other friends aren't. When you buy the farm, He will invite you over for dinner. 👍

Just seven related thoughts off the top of my drowsy head. Maybe there's something in there for someone else to glean. If not, peace and have a good weekend.

Happy Camper

Hard to beat a Glock 17 and 3 mags.

Seems a lot of people are also placing a lot of faith that they're going to be able to shoot a couple rounds and all the Antifa and BLM manbun warriors are going to scatter like cockroaches. Even if that has happened in some circumstances, if you think that they are not going to exchange their stupid signs and megaphones for more guns and ammo, I think you're being naive. Especially, if Trump wins, we're going to see an incremental increase in their presence and how well they are armed. You're assuming that we may step up our presence and activities but somehow the other side is just going to just keep doing the same thing.

Does anyone know how to help Kyle Rittenhouse, because they have taken down his "Go Fund Me" accounts and refunded the money? Is he still being held with a $2 million dollar bond? I claim he was innocent based on the films. He only shot in self defense and turned himself in. The people who attacked him have not been charged. The only thing I see he did, was possibly his age (17). He was immediately accused and charged with murder, attempted murder, and having a gun under 18 (a misdemeanor). Now, I didn't see any premeditated murder or attempted murder in the films. He was attacked period.

This argument, debate, or discussion, was obsoleted by the Glock 48 and Shield 15 round magazine

Antifa like's their little S&W Shields and the like in the oversized front pockets. Saw a couple in the local grocery store the other day, and yes, at least one was carrying, probably both.

His Lawyers have a site where they are taking donations.

Don't worry about his time in jail. On a per hour basis, he will be well compensated for it after the lawsuit.

As a personal load out.

A good AR and 3 mags beats it readily if you have time to gather up the long gun.

Gang Initiations are a real threat with multiple assailants. You are only naïve once.

Springfield XDM Elite full size 9mm = 22+1 rounds

Don't forget the night sights!

You talkin about Bush? Or Obama?

If you're going to put yourself in the danger we're discussing, why are you only carrying a pistol?

Rioting douche bags are sporting backpacks. My AR pistol fits in one just fine. Along with a few other things. Equip yourself as needed, have a plan, be mobile.

Something tells me you already have blm
bumper stickers as extra insurance.. 😂




Camper have you trained to shoot through a
windshield with proficiency?
btw- massad Ayoob says to carry enough safety
glasses and distribute to every occupant...does
any ordinary civilian outside of Ayoob realistically
have such a plan in place ?

My opinion is first avoid the trouble in the first place if you can. In the event that you may not be able to, try to be armed well enough to deal with whatever situation you may encounter. At the very least always be armed with something and be proficient with it. Lastly, remember throughout recorded history, no one has ever lost a battle by having too much ammo.

Never worried about weapon size, don't have any issues concealing any, therefore don't have to worry about magazines, max capacity mags, and plenty of them on your person, a reliable weapon that you can hit with goes without saying.

I'm just gonna leave this here, and see what happens...

A well known fact.

In the neighborhoods that you might need that AR, the one in the truck could very well end up in the hands of the rioters.

I had never been a high capacity priority guy in my CCW choices. From 1980 (when I got my first CCW license) till about seven years ago, my choices had been revolvers and 1911s. Any departures from 1911s in autos were single stack 9mm. Then, about seven years ago, I started noticing an uptick in mob attacks on people, and switched to Glocks with double stack mags, only rarely switching to a single stack Glock for when not printing was a very high priority. That's been my situation since.

That's a nice Wilson.