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Can't tell you how many arguements I've gotten into with bow hunters that chastise me about hunting whitetail with a 22-250 or a 243. Dumb fuqkers they are.

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I've killed more deer with a 243 than anything else.


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Originally Posted by GeoW
Jim Carmichael, at his age, mat want to be more careful betting the ranch on a fair chase ram or goat with the Hornet. Mountains to climb is his first obstacle, then the fun really starts.

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He wrote that in the 60's, in his book The Complete Book of the Rifle. H'es probably long dead. i bet I could do it, tho, altho probably not within season-regulations. They charge BIG money to hunt those critters legally. His point was, 99% of men can't shoot or stalk waf. Even more true today than it was when he wrote it.

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it was Jim Carmichael that started the modern 6.5 long range mania. he necked down the 308 went to a 1000 yd match and almost won competing against fire belching magnums. Remington who was there commercialized the round as the 260 Rem. true to form they destroyed it in its infancy and allowed the 6.5 creed more (or less) to flourish. while the creed is 95% the same as the 260

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22 hornet legal in GA. Kills em, lady I know shoots them out of her garden, then eats them.


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Originally Posted by TNrifleman
If Jim Carmichael said he could do that, I have no doubt he could.



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yep, and me, baiting moose, elk, bears to a tree blind, can brain them with a shorty AR in 223, too. Just gotta know to aim 1" high 20m. and 3" high at 10m, if using the carrying handle sights. and typical zero for the sight. I'd much rather have to brain a grizzly with a shorty AR than have to fight with ANY bolt action or shotgun.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
Can't tell you how many arguements I've gotten into with bow hunters that chastise me about hunting whitetail with a 22-250 or a 243. Dumb fuqkers they are.


if you use varmint or match bthp's in those calibers, you'll lose a lot of the wounded critters with chest hits. the match hp's don't expand and the varmint bullets fragment without much penetration. I once shot a feral dog in the throat, from the front, with Hornaday, SX 50 gr sps and a 222. It blew a 1" plus- wide hole, less than 2" deep. Anywhere else, other than the brain or maybe the neck, he'd have run off. If you hit the brain, anything works, If you use Nosler Partition sp's and hit the chest vitals, they'll go no further, often less far, than those hit in the same place with 30-30sp's, especially the 170 gr version, especially at 100m and a short barrel. The 3030's wont expand well, if at all, under those conditions. they'll only have 2100 fps to start with.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
Can't tell you how many arguements I've gotten into with bow hunters that chastise me about hunting whitetail with a 22-250 or a 243. Dumb fuqkers they are.


if you use varmint or match bthp's in those calibers, you'll lose a lot of the wounded critters with chest hits. the match hp's don't expand and the varmint bullets fragment without much penetration. I once shot a feral dog in the throat, from the front, with Hornaday, SX 50 gr sps and a 222. It blew a 1" plus- wide hole, less than 2" deep. Anywhere else, other than the brain or maybe the neck, he'd have run off. If you hit the brain, anything works, If you use Nosler Partition sp's and hit the chest vitals, they'll go no further, often less far, than those hit in the same place with 30-30sp's, especially the 170 gr version, especially at 100m and a short barrel. The 3030's wont expand well, if at all, under those conditions. they'll only have 2100 fps to start with.



Blah, blah, blah, shut the fuqk up. I've killed literally hundreds of deer with a 22-250 @ a 243 with BTHP's and real light ballostic tips.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
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Originally Posted by mirage243
Can't tell you how many arguements I've gotten into with bow hunters that chastise me about hunting whitetail with a 22-250 or a 243. Dumb fuqkers they are.


if you use varmint or match bthp's in those calibers, you'll lose a lot of the wounded critters with chest hits. the match hp's don't expand and the varmint bullets fragment without much penetration. I once shot a feral dog in the throat, from the front, with Hornaday, SX 50 gr sps and a 222. It blew a 1" plus- wide hole, less than 2" deep. Anywhere else, other than the brain or maybe the neck, he'd have run off. If you hit the brain, anything works, If you use Nosler Partition sp's and hit the chest vitals, they'll go no further, often less far, than those hit in the same place with 30-30sp's, especially the 170 gr version, especially at 100m and a short barrel. The 3030's wont expand well, if at all, under those conditions. they'll only have 2100 fps to start with.



Blah, blah, blah, shut the fuqk up. I've killed literally hundreds of deer with a 22-250 @ a 243 with BTHP's and real light ballostic tips.

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sure, with head shots, and lying about it.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
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Originally Posted by mirage243
Can't tell you how many arguements I've gotten into with bow hunters that chastise me about hunting whitetail with a 22-250 or a 243. Dumb fuqkers they are.


if you use varmint or match bthp's in those calibers, you'll lose a lot of the wounded critters with chest hits. the match hp's don't expand and the varmint bullets fragment without much penetration. I once shot a feral dog in the throat, from the front, with Hornaday, SX 50 gr sps and a 222. It blew a 1" plus- wide hole, less than 2" deep. Anywhere else, other than the brain or maybe the neck, he'd have run off. If you hit the brain, anything works, If you use Nosler Partition sp's and hit the chest vitals, they'll go no further, often less far, than those hit in the same place with 30-30sp's, especially the 170 gr version, especially at 100m and a short barrel. The 3030's wont expand well, if at all, under those conditions. they'll only have 2100 fps to start with.



Blah, blah, blah, shut the fuqk up. I've killed literally hundreds of deer with a 22-250 @ a 243 with BTHP's and real light ballostic tips.
And I've killed a bunch with chest shots and varmint bullets out of a .223 and a .22-250 and a bunch more with 170's out of a .30-30. Lonee don't know WTF he's talking about.

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Originally Posted by lonee
sure, with head shots, and lying about it.


You're a stupid mf'er.

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