Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Burris blows China....

TTT, Busy compiling my list of MiC products for discussion.

Ya agreed. Doug is a good dude.

I look for optics made made in Japan. Never had one go bad. Weaver, SWFA, Trijicon track and hold zero. Worse thing that happened was Weaver going under and losing their classic line of optics. They gave people a $250 hunting scope that had decent glass, tracked and held zero.

Stuff like that does get my dander up and the practice is rampant. Around 20 years ago I was in a Sam’s Wholesale Club and they had advertised, “Wild Caught Gulf of Mexico Shrimp”. The price was good so I asked for five pounds. Instead of scooping up the shrimp from the display and weighing it I was given a sealed plastic bag because the shrimp came to Sam’s in five pound bags. On the bag was stamped, “Farmed Raised-Product of Vietnam”. Stuff like that does get me pretty wound up.

I'm not too convinced the Philippines manufactured stuff was worth a dmn either. Had a timberline 2-7 fail to hold zero on a 22 mag rimfire rifle. Had a burris fast fire 3 fail to hold zero this year, on a 357 sp101.

I've shot moose and caribou with many different burris scopes. Heck, used a burris scout scope this year on a 55.75" racked moose. Also used burris binocs. Lady used the same rifle on a caribou. Fair enough to say: the company is not that good anymore and I'm stepping away from the brand all together. I used to defend their optics, no more.

Sounds like Boomer is letting his emotional connection to the Philippines/filipino's cause a bit of an over reaction.

I'll concede that, IMHO, the Govt In the Philippines is less likely than China to impact my life in a negative way, but if given the choice I'll choose an American job over a filipino job every day and twice on Sunday.

Unfortunate - What non commie country makes a high magnification scope with a varmint type Christmas tree windage reticle? That isn't $1000?

Not all of us kemosabe.

Jack,
The lady's redfield 2-7 has held up to the recoil of her 9.3x62 for about 9 months now. It's says: made in USA.

We picked it up for $179 new. Compared to the flood of cheap Chinese trash, it's a good deal if yah ask me.

Why don't we have COO for everything.
And be complete.

Ingredient lists on food aren't recipes, but they cover ingredients.

How about COO for the whole thing listed in order from most to least.
Complex devices could show the 25/5075% marks to help clarify.

You can't tell me that if it was mandated they couldn't easily obtain that
with a year or two lead.

I work in manufacturing, we are just a step, we bring in components and put
them together, send them out for more processes.

One thing we do is a single step in a complex series for a very minor part of
aircraft. It would be hard to do right now. But if our suppliers and theirs marked
everything by percentage. In a year Boeing would have the ability.

I do much prefer to purchase something MiP than MiC. Folks in the Phil are not assigned jobs by the government, can go and do as they please, it's basically a Christian representative democracy etc. However, no welfare, no food boxes, no EBT.

Wife suggests not buying MiP due to the fact that business and government officials could readily be motivated to take negative shortcuts for bribes. The economics of MiC or MiP vs Made in the USA is not minor, it's likely huge and pays dividends for the manufacturer and their retailers. I don't think the US is the place for a company to pull off inexpensive quality optics production, but, any non-Com would be better than Com. (kudos to Leupold for trying) Burris, ime, was making totally adequate products, without selling out to China manufacturering this year.

Thanks for the discussion, as some are lost to the fact that is the forums purpose.

Just ordered a refurbished Nikon xbow scope. Says it's made in the Philippines.

Hope that's okay; I've kinda lost track of the drift of all this.

LOL

Country of Origin was listed?

If they go to China then that's it for me, Not buying anumore.

I didn’t think Burris was ever a contender.. ever...

I do agree and think you are absolutely right.....that coo on everything should be mandatory, then people can make their choices.....bob

I think MtnBoomer's point has been completely lost on many replying here. It is well understood that many products and parts are being made in China and forced upon us. In order to break that trend we as consumers must find a starting point and begin there. Burris like Walmart, when first starting was totally about being made in the USA. Huge selling point and one that got all of our attentions. As far Walmart goes, a deep dig into Sam Walton will reveal very interesting agreements, but that is another subject. So what is an American to do when confronted with this dilemma? I gather from some of the posts on this thread and the thread Camera Land started, that since we have very little say in where parts are made or where optics are made we just need to stay quite, accept our fate like good little slaves. "You can't fight City Hall ya know". And if the company I work for is buying products from China, well, nothing I can do about that ya know. Apathy seems to be the word of the day anymore and apathy coming from conservatives and Patriots is sad.

You have to start somewhere and I agree with MtnBoomer, Burris is a great starting point.

Yup. On Natchezss. Of course they might be lying. Saw COO on some other stuff on Amazon yesterday too. Maybe there's a trend starting.

My Excalibur scope went bat-crap-crazy on me, just before the season opened here. Stuck a red dot on it for the meantime, but a scope is preferred. This one is half the weight of the original, but not lit, and the aiming points below center can't be calibrated like a variable can. Actually, after looking through the red dot for a half day from my treestand, it seems to be just fine up to 40 yards, even at the start of legal light. I could hit just fine at 50 and even 60 with the other one before it crashed, but just like taking a 600-yard poke with a rifle, a lot can happen after the trigger is pulled that can futz things up for you, so a little discretion is in order.

Where did your list go?

Like I said, “patriotic” till it’s not convenient.

So, you personally think someone is not a patriot if they buy or own products MiC?


What I have said is that there are patriots that would like COO information prior to making a purchase. You seem to indicate disagreement with that premise, repeatedly, and I think you're FoS.

I own and use numerous MiC products, don't recall saying otherwise. And you are correct, iI recall now, Nikon Monarch 3 bins. Many times I make decisions based up specific bang for buck criteria at the time.

Carry-on