Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 30-06, 200 gr, Re 23 or Re 26 recipes?

b - I've been eyeing Stabill 6.5 for a bit. Of course I cant find any locally but that's another story. I'm headed on a road trip in a couple weeks and will pass by several gunshops. If I can find some, I'll give it a try. Thanks

bsa - I dont see any velocities on those targets but in my mind anything 2600ish with the high BC 200 gr bullets works for me! I'm at or slightly above 2600 with Re16 and suspect I'll be there with H4831 and Re26. Just need to find a recipe that prints as well as yours!

AZ - I have Re19 but have shied away from using both it and 22. I hunt in temps from 0 to 80 and have found velocity swings in both that make me leary. Being this load is for elk in Oct/Nov, I always start with temp insensitive powders. I may load up a couple to see how it goes.

Thanks guys - keep the recipes and ideas coming. I'll post results when I'm done.

I'll be packing a 30-06 with 200gr Partitions over H4831 doing exactly 2600 at least some of the time this year. It shoots so well, into 3/4" over and over again, that I don't mind the "slow". It will do just fine at any sane range, and holdover is just a number.

Next year I'll try R-26 for the same Partitions, but it won't be needed. Just gotta play.

I may need to try the 200 gr Party. I shot about $300 worth of components on the 180 gr Party with limited success.

BW, I won't mention the load here in general population.. but its been years ago, but someone asked what was the max velocity one could safely get with a 200 grain bullet, out of an 06.. that kinda stuff interests me, and I have the most fun at the reload bench figuring out questions like this...

so I notice max pressures out of an 06, with 4831, where kinda low compared to other load data with other powders... so I picked that powder ( in the Short Cut version), and worked up, using my old 1917 Winchester built Enfield...with a 26 inch barrel...

What the chrono told me, was real surprising, and the brass showed no pressure signs.. same 10 pieces of brass loaded over and over... I posted the results here on the campfire, and was flamed all the way to the moon and back.. several times.....Peope were cursing my wife, kids, the dog, My Mother Wears combat boots etc.... add the famous old standby from the All KNOWING.." did you professional pressure test that info on Expensive Professional 100K Lab Test Equipment???".. nope, I was short a Lab and a 100K.. so no....

The someone can on the campfire and actually defended my posting and info.... his name was Mike...so the ALL KNOWING crowd hit him with the same questions...and he said that actually yes he did.... and left a phone number to call him if anyone wanted to talk to him... Area Code 541.. right here in Oregon....and I guess those guys did call him... being mad I was posting stuff that you won't find in a load manual...

So I called Mike at the number he had given here... the Receptionist answered the Phone: " Nosler Bullets, How may I direct your call?".... We talked... right after that, the thread itself quickly became page 3 in about 4 to 6 hours...and then disappeared into the archives...

With 4831 SC, and a light crimp... you can exceed 2700 fps out of an 06 with a 200 grain bullet, by quite a bit...

Mike was the one he gave me the expression, you can't get enough 4831 into an 06 case to exceed SAAMI specs...so I gather as Nosler's Chief Ballistician at the time, he might know what he was talking about...

just passing it on, if you are chasing velocity potential with that bullet in that caliber....and in my old Enfield with an original factory 1918 made barrel, the accuracy was right there....so no worries there... I also duplicated the same results with a 1990s Model 70, a 1970s Model 700, an early 1990s A Bolt, same results with brass having no loose primer pockets after 5 to 10 shots with the same load...and using standard Large Rifle Primers.. any major brand readily available...

I remember that thread and the postings. I agreed with you then and now. I've talked to Mike more than a few times. Hes a good dude and great source of info. I've not played with 200 gr bullets in the 30-06 much but believe your statement is true of several powders - Re23, Re26, H1000 come to mind. I'm seating mine to 3.365 and am compressing the heck out of H4831, Re26 specifically. I also wish SAAMI would change the avg pressure to match the 270......

Thanks.

I'm running H4831 in my 308 Norma magnum and it runs right at 2,800 fps. Thats using more powder than the ol 06, with not a whole lot more gain. My IMR4350 load in my 06 averages 2,600 fps, and I've killed deer and elk with it and have never found a bullet. Always get complete penetration. I like that load because its pretty mild mannered. I've also shot quite a few 200gr partitions in my rifles because about 5 years ago, SPS had a sale on them for $13.45/bag, so I bought 500 bullets (10 bags). Now I'm getting low on them and I wished I would have bought 1000 instead!!!! Now they are $23.45, but in stock for you guys wanting to buy some...


This rifle used to be a 30-06, but I had it rechambered to 308 Norma...^^ It still likes that 200 gr partition too.. I'm also interested in what seafire posted. I may try H4831 in the 06 as well. Its a great powder that works well in many cartridges, so I always have some on hand..

Well, I know it's not a 30-06, but if you really want to kill elk in "the timber", get yourself a 45-70 with a good loading for a tough 400-405 grain bullet.................you'll be impressed with how it kills.

And, yes, I do like the 200 gr Partition in the 'o6 as well & as to that round in the timber, the elk is never gonna know the difference between 2600 & 2700 FPS.........................now, at 6 or 700 yards, that's a different can of worms................just sayin'.

So I can see obsessing over the velocity in open mountain hunting, not in "the timber".

MM

RL-17 in a Tikka 30-06 Superlite

My brother downed a 6x6 on a wilderness area backpack hunt yesterday morning with one of my 30-06 200 grain partition loads with H4831SC. Identical performance to my last 2 bulls, a couple of steps and down. If only the pack out was that easy...

I shot the 200 Partition today over RL26 in my Kimber Montana.

Nosler Brass, Federal 210Match primers.

61.0 - 2709 average fps
61.5 - 2717
62.0 - 2745

61.5 grouped the tightest.

My 200 gr Partition load uses RL22, don't remember the charge off the top of my head. But I get 2550 fps out of a Remington factory carbine, 20" barrel. Great little rifle in the elk woods.

StaBal 6.5 and the 212 ELD X worked well on my bull this year.

I’m beginning to see why the 06 gets so much love for the 200 and over. With newer powders and sleek bullets it really brings a bunch to the table, not that it was getting left behind the other 100 years but the slicker sharp nosed bullets work well in most 06 chambers and it’s got the room to get them big bullets really moving well.

what rifle are you shooting?

P64 Featherweight.

I settled on 60.0 gr Re 26 under the 200 Accubond. It shoots a tad over 2700 and right at MOA or a tad better. Surprisingly recoil isn't bad with my 7lb 10oz rifle. I like it!

Even older bullets in that weight range work well. Like the 200gr partition, for example.

GF1,

What's a "very small amount of compression"? Where about in the case is that weight of powder filled to?

That's a long bullet that takes up a lot of case volume, depending on COAL............what COAL are you loading those to?

MM

Yup, I’d run that one nearly anywhere as well. In just about any 30 caliber.

I just like to try some other stuff but if I had to choose, that or the Accubond would be the ones.

That’s a do everything sorta load!

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