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Take a few tranquilizers before you get a quote to get that trigger housing machined from scratch.
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Quick look shows 3 versions of trigger housing w the first version the one that breaks. Appears that using a 2nd version in a 1st version gun requires some modification.
Should be a known fix in some circles.
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Take a few tranquilizers before you get a quote to get that trigger housing machined from scratch. I agree, the complete trigger housing , could be challenging and expensive, to build from scratch! I also believe it could probably be repaired. Being a journeyman machinest, I am sure you have repaired many things some would discard!
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If you need a part made let me know. Been doing this since 1979.
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Thanks all. BTW: if you're interested, here's a pic of the piece in question. ![[Linked Image from d1zzd228d7bvdx.cloudfront.net]](https://d1zzd228d7bvdx.cloudfront.net/products/226960.jpg) The problem is the little nib in the upper left corner of the object. It's sheered off. From what I gather there are ways of mending it, but most guys who go this route find it breaks again in as little as 40 rounds. This is one of the reasons Ruger stopped making it. I had run 100 rounds of sub-MAX hunting ammo through it when mine failed. Before that, it had sat in my buddy's safe for 40 years.
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That looks like a newer style housing, beefed up and no lip like the prev type.
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That looks like a newer style housing, beefed up and no lip like the prev type. It may be. I just found this online. I actually haven't seen the damage yet. I'm due to stop out at the 'smiths later in the week.
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My dad has a minty 66 fingergroove so Im thinking i better snag a newer style for down the road
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This may be closer to what I'm dealing with ![[Linked Image from cfnparts.com]](https://cfnparts.com/image/cache/data/Gun%20Parts/Ruger/Rifle/44%20Carbine/100_9462-500x500.jpg)
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Paydirt! Here's what Ed Coles said in that thread:
Good news, Fix achieved. I went to Williams Gun Sight in Davison Michigan, talked to their gunsmith, showed him the old and new parts and explained my idea on how to fix it, mill the mating area of the receiver to accept the new trigger guard. 4 weeks later and more machining time than he originally thought and I have a gun that's better than new and ready for my next generation of deer hunters. So, if anyone has a broken gen 1 trigger guard and is as lucky as I was in finding a second generation part, find the right gunsmith and you're almost home free. Thank you Williams Gun Sight!!!
This may be the ticket: https://williamsgunsight.com/Somebody pass the mustard! I'm going to have a happy dance!
Last edited by shaman; 09/30/20.
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The smith sent me a pick of the problem ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/medium/139091.jpg) . . . and there are new cracks showing themselves. It's toast. I'm beginning to think wall hanger-- if I can't find another early-model assembly
Last edited by shaman; 10/01/20.
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Don't know if you've already checked it out yet but this place lists early model trigger guard assemblies for all three variations but all three are shown as currently out of stock. They do offer a "Notify me when in stock" option though. https://cfnparts.com/Ruger%2044%20Carbine%20Parts-425
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Thanks. Yes, I already had a notify going on that item.
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I think it *could* be fixed by milling the damaged area off very neatly and replacing it with a steel piece that matches the original contour attached with small dowels and flat head screws. You would probably have to mill it back about an inch or so to give you enough area to attach the fasteners without weakening the existing part too much.
I'd give it a try if I still had a machine shop at my disposal.
Somebody out there has probably repaired one in a similar fashion.
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I've been looking around the net since you made your post and the reason that no replacement parts are out there is because they all break. Sounds like a job for someone who has metalworking skills.......
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Assemble as is. Fill voids with JB Weld. Never take it apart again, clean and lubricate in place.
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Try Jack First Gun Parts if you haven’t already looked. They stock a lot of old and hard to find parts.
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I'm starting to have some optimism. Weld it up and file it down.
No need to have some weird shamanic mustard dance just yet.
How did you know about mustard dances? That's something that isn't talked about much. Shaman, good luck with finding a fix. As for Conrad..................He's Eskimo and knows about things shamanic. I think it's genetic maybe.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Try Jack First Gun Parts if you haven’t already looked. They stock a lot of old and hard to find parts. Checked. Nuttin showin'. Thanks anyway.
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