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I’ve owned a few Tacoma’s with the 4.0l V6 and have had great luck with that engine. I’m considering a new Tacoma which now comes with the 3.5l V6.

Any first hand experience with the “newer” powerplant?

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Same here.
My '10 has 133k on it and has been pretty trouble-free.
Thinking of getting my father-in-law's '16 with the 3.5 when he gets a new one.

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Talked to a guy yesterday, who let his 2012 go, and picked up a 2020, with that 3.5 l.. has had it about 10K.. told me that he disliked it, because of the fuel injection changes, its acceleration is hesitant right at first and then kicks in...the mileage isn't any where near is good, nor does it have the power the 4/0 did... and a oil change at the dealer is a lot more spendy, because of the pain in the ass you'll find out it is, if you try and do it yourself....

I had my 4 Runner with me and was saying I was thinking about picking up one..

he told me if I was going to upgrade to buy a used one with the 4.0 instead of a new 3.5 in a 2020....

just passing the conversation on.. draw your own conclusions...


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I have a 2020......... so far so good. I have the sr5 4x4 v6 silver sky.

Handling the mountains I hunt with no problem in stock form.

I’m getting 27 mpg on the highway.

I like it.

My bud has a 2019 trd dcsb. He tricked it out. King coil overs, upc arms......etc

Those trucks go.

I change my own oil........

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Originally Posted by covejeepsxj
I’ve owned a few Tacoma’s with the 4.0l V6 and have had great luck with that engine. I’m considering a new Tacoma which now comes with the 3.5l V6.

Any first hand experience with the “newer” powerplant?

Thanks.

I thought they made the engine bigger not smaller> I am suprised at that

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My son is complaining about the noticeable power difference...traded in a 2007 for 2019, 6 sp, big cab. No problems yet, just less power than the old one, not a noticeable difference in mpg.


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I have had 3 Tacomas with the 4.0 they are pretty much bullet proof. I have heard that the 2006 may have head gasket problems but thats after 100k

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Thanks Guys. I appreciate the information.


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I currently have a 2017 Tacoma with the 3.5. I have had the older Tacoma's with the 4.0 and I do currently have an 06 Toyota 4Runner with the 4.0. A lot of difference between the 2. The 4.0 has a lot more torque at lower RPMs. The 3.5 is actually rated with about 30 more HP. The 4.0 have a 5 speed automatic transmission and the new 3.5 is coupled with a 6 speed automatic tranny. The 6 speed seems like it is always shifting up and down. I had a 2005 Tacoma with the 4.0 with the 6 speed manual transmission and I liked that setup a lot. Mileage is comparable. I do notice that the new 3.5 motor is really noisy at an idle. But overall I really do like the truck. And resale value seems to be holding up as well on these as much as the older ones.

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Originally Posted by lazydrifter
I currently have a 2017 Tacoma with the 3.5. I have had the older Tacoma's with the 4.0 and I do currently have an 06 Toyota 4Runner with the 4.0. A lot of difference between the 2. The 4.0 has a lot more torque at lower RPMs. The 3.5 is actually rated with about 30 more HP. The 4.0 have a 5 speed automatic transmission and the new 3.5 is coupled with a 6 speed automatic tranny. The 6 speed seems like it is always shifting up and down. I had a 2005 Tacoma with the 4.0 with the 6 speed manual transmission and I liked that setup a lot. Mileage is comparable. I do notice that the new 3.5 motor is really noisy at an idle. But overall I really do like the truck. And resale value seems to be holding up as well on these as much as the older ones.


Exactly the info I was looking for. Much Appreciated.


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I like the newer Tacoma design, but I just can't get excited about that powertrain. Sound like the 6spd auto would be better off if the motor did make more lower rpm torque. I often lock out OD on my 4.0L model when I'm in town, as it is programmed to shift into OD (5th gear) at pretty low revs. It's a simple side-to-side bump on the shifter to have OD or not. Toyota should look at a big 4cyl with a turbo if they want better fuel economy than the old 4.0 while still making good torque. Modern single-turbo fours can easily make around 300-350ft/lbs in the useable part of the rev range.


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I'd go over to www.tacomaworld.com and read up on some of the comments. I have no 1st hand experience with the new 3.5, but my 2007 with the 4.0 has been bulletproof.

You won't get a consensus. Most of the guys with the 3.5 are happy, but a lot of guys coming from the 4.0 to the 3.5 don't. They both have similar torque and HP ratings, but the new 3.5 needs 4600 rpm to get max torque. The older 4.0 does it at 3500 rpm. Which is still high, but a lot better than 4600. Based on what I'm reading the 3.5 does OK, you just have to drive it differently.


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My son had both a 2008 and now a 2017. He says the torque at low speeds was better with the 4.0. He say you have to wind the 3.5 up to make it go.

He say the 4.0 was better as a off road vehicle. His 2008 was totaled in a accident.

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Originally Posted by covejeepsxj
Originally Posted by lazydrifter
I currently have a 2017 Tacoma with the 3.5. I have had the older Tacoma's with the 4.0 and I do currently have an 06 Toyota 4Runner with the 4.0. A lot of difference between the 2. The 4.0 has a lot more torque at lower RPMs. The 3.5 is actually rated with about 30 more HP. The 4.0 have a 5 speed automatic transmission and the new 3.5 is coupled with a 6 speed automatic tranny. The 6 speed seems like it is always shifting up and down. I had a 2005 Tacoma with the 4.0 with the 6 speed manual transmission and I liked that setup a lot. Mileage is comparable. I do notice that the new 3.5 motor is really noisy at an idle. But overall I really do like the truck. And resale value seems to be holding up as well on these as much as the older ones.


Exactly the info I was looking for. Much Appreciated.

The 3.5 is a good engine and is proven. The problem is that Toyota, in an attempt to increase efficiency, changed it to an Atkinson cycle engine, ( don't ask me to explain how it works) with the result that the engine doesn't make peak torque until the mid-upper RPM range, and that's not a good thing for a truck, which needs torque at low RPMs.


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Originally Posted by fester
I have a 2020......... so far so good. I have the sr5 4x4 v6 silver sky.

Handling the mountains I hunt with no problem in stock form.

I’m getting 27 mpg on the highway.

I like it.

My bud has a 2019 trd dcsb. He tricked it out. King coil overs, upc arms......etc

Those trucks go.

I change my own oil........


Never heard anyone say that they got that good of gas mileage on a Tacoma. Whats your secret?

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I've got 150k on my 2011 4.0 with not a single issue so far. I'd like a new one with a 6 speed manual trans before they go extinct. But not completely sold on the 3.5 and crappier fuel mileage (supposedly) with the manual.

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Toyota has got to do something with their engine designs to find a balance between fuel economy and power and they really seem to be struggling. Damn near every newer Tacoma I see has a little lift, bigger tires, roof racks and all kinds of [bleep] strapped to them and then they have the gutless 3.5 with a tranny that can not find a happy place and in turn that leads to poor fuel economy. They really need to get with the program.

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Originally Posted by remington
Originally Posted by fester
I have a 2020......... so far so good. I have the sr5 4x4 v6 silver sky.

Handling the mountains I hunt with no problem in stock form.

I’m getting 27 mpg on the highway.

I like it.

My bud has a 2019 trd dcsb. He tricked it out. King coil overs, upc arms......etc

Those trucks go.

I change my own oil........


Never heard anyone say that they got that good of gas mileage on a Tacoma. Whats your secret?


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Tacoma World is the place for your answers

Currently have a '14 4.0 & manual......sold an '05 recently

The 4.0 oil changes are really simple

The new 3.5 have newer canister style system..a bigger PIA


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