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Good example is a guy I grew up with. Andy has killed a lot of nice bucks in west Tennessee and middle Tennessee over the years. He will shoot 5-7 does a year and typically 1-2 bucks. He has been using the same 35 Remington since he was about 12( 35 now) I attempted to talk to him about better cartridges and he laughed. Said his rifle has never let him down. It’s the only deer rifle he owns
Sage advice from ol' Andy there. Sometimes I wish I was as easily satisfied. 
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35 Remington wouldn’t be my first choice for a one and only, but then again I’m a little looney about guns as most of you are as well
Truth is I used a 243 exclusively for a number of years without issue. Still use it most of the time
Heck it even had a leupold scope on it. Amazing I was successful especially shooting factory ammo.
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
25 WSSM, .260, 7mm08 for normal distances. Sub-thirty caliber magnums for longer distance.
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30/06 is ** too much gun at the distance most deer are shot** . Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
Can you Kill them DEADER ? "Overkill" doesn't exist, IMO. Jerry
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30/06 is ** too much gun at the distance most deer are shot** . Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
Can you Kill them DEADER ? "Overkill" doesn't exist, IMO. Jerry “Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner”! Short of using large diameter(( greater than 50 cal) exploding bullets......overkill is “over dramatized”! memtb
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
25 WSSM, .260, 7mm08 for normal distances. Sub-thirty caliber magnums for longer distance. I've shot them as close as 10 yards with a 30-06. I prefer my 30-30 up close but there was no problem
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I gotta figure out what to run this yr....
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Sucks azz its a 1 buck state, and my little.corner of the county low on does.
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I've been using the same .270 since 1979. I have allot of confidence in the rifle and caliber. Sometimes I think about using another rifle and caliber then talk myself out of it.
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
25 WSSM, .260, 7mm08 for normal distances. Sub-thirty caliber magnums for longer distance. You’re reading too much Man Bun tripe & drivel. Jerry
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
25 WSSM, .260, 7mm08 for normal distances. Sub-thirty caliber magnums for longer distance. You’re reading too much Man Bun tripe & drivel. Jerry LMAO! 😂 ....Hb
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I've kilt them using 223, 25-06, 270, 30-06, 30-30, 257 bee, 300 wsm, 375 h&h, 7.62x39, 250-3000, 22 Hi Power, 300 savage, 303 savage, 50 cal muzzleloader, 45 cal muzzleloader, 44 mag pistol, and by god every one worked. Never lost a deer to any of these. So the answer to your question is whatever you shoot the best with within reasonable reason should work just fine. I have killed texas whitetail Arizona coues whitetail and Arizona muleys with these. YMMV
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I started with a 35 rem, moved up to 30-06 at age 13, when I graduated and got real job bought myself a 300wm. I have since killed with everything from 204 to 338 laupua.
I have been primarily using a 25-06ai for the last several years and it has become my favorite. All will kill but for the recoil and all around gun I think this is my choice. 110 grain accubomb at 3360 will handle anything to 400 fine and most a bang flops.
I take the 338 in I plan to shoot over 300 most of the time but also have a 260 Rayhill rocket that I use for longer range as well.
Started my nephew with 223 and he killed a pile of deer. Plan to start my daughter this year with the same 223 as I’m gonna step him up to an abolt 243.
I guess in short the 25-06ai is my favorite
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. Other cartridges in that recoil class buck wind better if you're shooting further.
25 WSSM, .260, 7mm08 for normal distances. Sub-thirty caliber magnums for longer distance. You’re reading too much Man Bun tripe & drivel. Jerry You're the sort of fool who replied with tripe and drivel and left no doubt.
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You’re reading too much Man Bun tripe & drivel.
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You're the sort of fool who replied with tripe and drivel and left no doubt.  waa waa You hurt my feelers  Do you have Chic jeans to go with your Man Bun ?  I can tease you w/o calling you names!  Now I’m goin huntin in the mornin so you’ll have plenty of time to think of another insult. junior. Jerry
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30/06 is too much gun at the distance most deer are shot. I was gonna make a pointed comment on this post, but you guys already handled it. Happy Trails
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The 257 Roberts thread made me think of this. I say it’s the 30-06 with the 270 close behind. Agreed I prefer the .30-06 but if I only was a deer hunter I'd probably go with the 270 Win. Agreed Oh, and I agree with hanco, 30-06 is the best...  Me too.
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[quote=hanco]The 257 Roberts thread made me think of this. I say it’s the 30-06 with the 270 close behind. Agreed I prefer the .30-06 but if I only was a deer hunter I'd probably go with the 270 Win. Agreed Oh, and I agree with hanco, 30-06 is the best... Me too. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Guys I have an 06 that I love and it reminds me of my Dad. I've hunted and killed multiple deer with it. I've had 06s before and killed with them. NO prejudice. ** Actually, IMO the 30-06 is THE most American Cartridge we have, so... That said, FOR DEER -> I like the 270 W better.....it shoots FLATTER, pure and simple. Jerry ps: NO... the 6.5 Creed, 6.5 X47, 6.5 Grendal, & 6.5 Swede DON'T shoot flatter INSIDE 400 yrds.
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I typically use one of my 243’s or my 260. Also use the 30-06 occasionally. 300blk kills them just fine for my kids.
I think too much consideration is given to cartridges honestly. Deer aren’t hard to kill
I agree with you and disagree with qualifications. Yes, deer aren't hard to kill. As you said 22 Mag--- UP, as long as shot placement is correct. I've dispatched car wounded deer with a 22 LR and hunted and killed with an 8mm RM (totally unnecessary but I own one). Where the qualifications come in IS the WHERE someone hunts. I've hunted Nat'l Forest, thickets, pastures, cutovers, and power / pipelines. I like a cartridge that you can HIT a deer from the muzzle out to 400 yds. NOT all those you listed are good at distance. Where I hunt now, I can be in a thicket or on an open pasture or fence row and 400 yds isn't out of the question. MY, MY requisite is a cartridge with adequate capability & trajectory out to 400 yds. My choices are less than in your list. ATST, as you said, we must *shoot* within the cartridge's limit. Jerry You could hit a deer at 400 yds with a 22 LR! Few people can shoot within the limits of the cartridge they shoot. We must shoot within our own limit!
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If we're doing the ol' 'There can be only one' for the rest of my time deer hunting, I'd probably go with the .270. Then spend every day while deer hunting second guessing my decision. 😊
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