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Re: Government, England... [Re: downwindtracker2] #15318007 10/16/20
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Originally Posted by downwindtracker2
In other parliamentary democracies that don't have a monarch , they have presidents, often elected. This does sometimes becomes messy. The position is a ceremonial, and what better way for stuff like that than some crowned head. It works.


I think it's fair to say that any government can be messy. Certainly, the citizens have to keep a watchful eye on them. I remain hopeful that with the savings realized by no longer funding the royals, the CBC, and selling off most of their assets, we can improve the lot of average Canadians. Call it a more responsible way of spending taxpayer's money.


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Or we could just say Adios Amigos to Quebec !

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Ok guys, thank you!


One more question, and we will see how this goes...

I was going to post this question in the Australian forum also.
Although I quite obviously never drive across that common border😁.

Think our funny talking cousins will respond as you have?


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Re: Government, England... [Re: Dillonbuck] #15318829 10/16/20
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WRT dumping the royals, yes.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
WRT dumping the royals, yes.



They are pretty much irrelevant here...except in women's magazines.



...and to be frank the only reason we haven't given them their marching orders is that we trust our politicians even less.



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Interesting cultural study. Here in Louisiana, we have our Anglo and French interaction, probably a watered down version of what your guys have in Canada. I was raised near the Anglo, French border here in Central Louisiana, witnessed this interaction.

Cajuns tend to be a bit clannish, enjoy speaking their version of French when they don’t want Rednecks to know what they’re saying. That’s mostly the older bunch, younger ones hardly know the language. French speaking was strongly discouraged in schools for years. Then the state realized that mistake, brought in French teachers from France and Belgium. But Cajuns don’t speak “French”. I was in Paris with a Cajun some years ago. I could understand locals from college French better than he could. So that program to reintroduce French in LA was largely a bust.

The arrogance of the British up against the pride and clannishness of the French, sorta explains Canada in my mind. If it’s like here, all that sorta fizzles out over time. But add the socialist factor and it becomes more like what we’re experiencing here in the US, Marxists trying to take over. That’s more than cultural and much more of a threat.

I hope we all can throw off this leftist assault on our democracies. Our best to you guys. Say a few prayers for us.

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Re: Government, England... [Re: Dillonbuck] #15320416 10/17/20
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The French - English thing isn't really a problem right now. COVID and having a minority government is the problem.

WRT governance, it doesn't matter who is in charge, the job of the opposition is to continually poke at the governing party to make sure things are being done correctly. In the US, the constant bickering between the Dems and the Republicans is business as usual. With the increased media coverage of the past 20 years or maybe a bit longer, the public sees and hears about it more. Remember the old days when you got a short blurb on the radio at the top of the hour? You had to go home and read the paper to get more of the details. That's changed.

Here in Canada, the Liberals are at the helm and some people believe they are buggering things up worse than they normally would. COVID is making things hard to control and budget for. Probably not for the rest of the world, but for us at least, we realize that Justin Trudeau was not qualified to be the leader of a political party. He was woefully inexperienced, but he had the right last name. The Liberals banked on it and parlayed that into a Liberal win. They played the hand and it worked. The trouble is, COVID, corruption and incompetence have caught up with them.

We are trying to deal with COVID and the feds. That is more worrisome right now than the language you speak.

According to the latest Angus-Reid poll, his approval is dropping again. But it bounces around.

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The Aussies are much more closer to kicking out the royals than Canucks.


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I suspect we may see more of a movement to separate ourselves from the royal family after the current Queen passes away!

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Originally Posted by patbrennan
I suspect we may see more of a movement to separate ourselves from the royal family after the current Queen passes away!


I think so. I believe that it is long overdue.


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I first saw the queen when I was 9 years old. It was in Indian Head, Saskatchewan. It was 1959, and I got to within 8-10 feet of her, and as a young lad I was suitably impressed. She was a classy lady back then, and she still is today. I spent just over 30 years in the employ of Her Majesty the Queen in the Right of the Province of Ontario. Our parliamentary type of Government is quite similar to the English. One of the things we could afford to lose is that moth eaten crew called the senate. Someone should wake them up and send them home. (And take Trudeau with them.)


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Originally Posted by the_shootist
I first saw the queen when I was 9 years old. It was in Indian Head, Saskatchewan. It was 1959, and I got to within 8-10 feet of her, and as a young lad I was suitably impressed. She was a classy lady back then, and she still is today. I spent just over 30 years in the employ of Her Majesty the Queen in the Right of the Province of Ontario. Our parliamentary type of Government is quite similar to the English. One of the things we could afford to lose is that moth eaten crew called the senate. Someone should wake them up and send them home. (And take Trudeau with them.)



Hopefully, the Senate will go, along with the queen. She will be dead when that happens. All the expenses and trappings can be put to much better use. The royals can visit as tourists. They can also pay the Mounties for security services. We might as well make some money if they drop by for a ski holiday. smile

I have no doubt that she's a nice person, but the antiquated system she represents must end.


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[quote=the_shootist] I spent just over 30 years in the employ of Her Majesty the Queen in the Right of the Province of Ontario.


What exactly does that line mean, Her Majesty......Ontario.

Again, showing my ignorance.
Please forgive it and help the curiosity.


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The relationship between the Crown and the Citizen's of Canada is a multifaceted one. Some have no need for the Crown, some have an opinion, yet have never lived nor experienced the honor of the British Crown.

Here is what I see, I see Canada's indigenous who want to kick the Crown to the curb and dump Colonialism, but they have short memories, selective too.
The honor of the Crown is the very reason they still exist in this Country, the Crown preserved land for them, rights were included into the Constitution and implemented, therefore saving them and the Culture's therein. When I hear Native people whine about the King of England I offer a few details of how they/we got here. My Cultural roots owes everything to the King of England, we wouldn't exist if it were not for the King's grace.

If anyone should be unhappy with the Crown it should be the Citizen's who are loosing freedom's because of the Treaties and giveaways the king is in the middle of honoring.

The reason alot of people want to dump the King is so it will make it easier to dissolve the Country in favor of a one world government, remember Trudeau said...."The worlds first post national state".
This is what its all about.

If it were not the British Crown it would of been another.

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Everybody follows American politics and I see it as less transparent than the parliamentary system.( it needs tweaking)
Our federal , provincial and local politics work poorly when voters show indifference to these lawmakers.

Good government requires the electorate to vote in great numbers. The system is a good one but individual Canadian's don't use it to its fullest.
and Canadian's get substandard Government
The Queen is not the problem, she is a figurehead and a good one- for these times.
I am no Brit expatriate, but a stoic and Patriotic Western Canadian- born and raised in British Columbia- Cheers & God Bless.


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673, we don't have a king. We haven't since 1952.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
673, we don't have a king. We haven't since 1952.

I am aware of that, I use the term "king" as a reference to the historic. Historic to the Native peoples of Canada.

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I see. laugh


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I see. laugh

So you see the relationship between the Crown and the Citizens of Canada isn't a simple one, I also think the western view is different than elsewhere in Canada, after the "royal proclamation" a splintering occurred and the "kings" original intention has been skewed and frankly, taken on a new interpretation which is alarming.

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