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South Africa 2021 ? #15137655 08/15/20
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Thoughts or speculation on traveling to South Africa, summer of 2021 for a hunt?

Will it be possible? I'd like to finally go - and I suspect that there will be some good deals offered since 2020 was likely a pretty dismal year due to travel restrictions.

Anticipated problems for 2021?

Thanks, Guy

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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15137722 08/15/20
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Call up some booking agents and discuss what you want and what they anticipate for 2021.


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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: elkhunternm] #15138216 08/15/20
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Many 2020 hunts have been pushed into 2021. Better get booked before the SHOWS in Dec/Jan/Feb.

Just got my full refund from Delta for joberg cancellation this year.

Good luck and health to all going in 2021.

Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15145305 08/18/20
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Well, let us all believe and assume that 2021 will be a better year than what we have now and we can go back to our respective lives of our hunting adventure.

Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15145404 08/18/20
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mygrade1 is correct on hunts being pushed back to 2021. Personally I won't be putting any $$ down on a hunt until I know the country is open and you can fly there and get home.

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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: muygrande1] #15145660 08/18/20
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I would be surprised that the shows happen. I am not thinking a return to Africa (Caprivi in mind) for a couple of years at least.


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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15148407 08/19/20
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Pretty much everyone who was going this year (or any international hunt for that matter) will be pushing to next year or later if not getting a refund.

I would look to 2022 or later and would book through a reputable agent who can help you navigate through this as I’m sure there will be some new things to be aware of when hunting in Africa resumes for international travelers. As others stated, would not tie a lot of money up until things are more certain. A very small deposit for the dates you want and that’s it.



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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: muygrande1] #15149964 08/19/20
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Originally Posted by muygrande1
Many 2020 hunts have been pushed into 2021. Better get booked before the SHOWS in Dec/Jan/Feb.

Just got my full refund from Delta for joberg cancellation this year.

Good luck and health to all going in 2021.


Unless a vaccine is developed, I doubt there will be shows next year. The US embassy in Zim is closed until January, as are others, and African outfitters need visas to attend shows. I have pushed 2 safaris from this year to next but who knows?

Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15173945 08/27/20
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I don't think anyone has the slightest idea when African hunting will reopen. When will a vaccine be available? How long will it take to produce it? Who knows? What if 25% of people say they won't take it? I'm glad I went when I did.


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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15286789 10/05/20
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Gents:

One of the guys going with me to Bots in Aug 2021 has been signed up with the US State Dept. and the US Embassy in Botswana. The US Embassy there (Botswana) emails out periodic updates for Bots and other neighboring countries. He forwarded the email he received earlier today regarding South Africa's announced "re-opening" of its boarders to international tourist travel. I've cut and pasted it below in its entirety. Now, this is just for those traveling into and staying IN RSA for even one night. You CAN still transit through Johannesburg to another open country AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN WITHIN THE TRANSIT AREA OF THE TERMINAL.

> From: ConsularGaboronestate.gov
> Date: October 5, 2020 at 9:35:51 AM CDT
> Subject: Health Alert: U.S. Embassy Gaborone, Botswana (10/05/2020)
> Reply-To: <ConsularGaboronestate.gov
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> Health Alert – U.S. Embassy Gaborone, Botswana (10/05/2020)
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> Location: Botswana
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> Event: New South Africa Travel Regulations
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> The Government of South Africa has announced an easing of travel restrictions and border closures as of October 1, 2020.
> From: ConsularGaboronestate.gov
> Date: October 5, 2020 at 9:35:51 AM CDT
> Subject: Health Alert: U.S. Embassy Gaborone, Botswana (10/05/2020)
> Reply-To: <ConsularGaboronestate.gov>
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> Health Alert – U.S. Embassy Gaborone, Botswana (10/05/2020)
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> Location: Botswana
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> Event: New South Africa Travel Regulations
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> The Government of South Africa has announced an easing of travel restrictions and border closures as of October 1, 2020.
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> The 18 land borders into South Africa that were partially operational are now fully operational. The 35 land borders that were closed remained closed. The list of borders and their status can be found here.
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> Three airports are now operational for business and leisure travel to South Africa: OR Tambo (Johannesburg), Cape Town International (Cape Town), and King Shaka International (Durban). However, flights from Botswana have not yet resumed and international flights to and from Botswana remain suspended at this time.

> Travelers from high risk countries are not permitted entry to South Africa for leisure. A high risk country is any country with higher numbers of COVID infections and deaths than South Africa. This means travelers from all African countries may currently enter South Africa for business or leisure. The United States is considered a high risk country and leisure travel from the United States is not permitted. Travelers holding U.S. passports may only enter South Africa leisure if they have been in a medium or low risk country for 10 days prior to departure to South Africa.
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> The list of high risk countries as of today can be found here. https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-afr...eleases-updated-list-high-risk-countries

> The following rules apply to all travelers entering South Africa:
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> · Travelers must present a negative Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) COVID-19 test conducted by and signed by a certified medical practitioner not older than 72 hours from the time of their departure for South Africa.
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> · Travelers must follow all South African COVID-19 protocols including wearing masks at all times in public spaces, social distancing, and following hygiene regulations.
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> · All travelers must have the appropriate visa prior to entering South Africa. This means U.S. citizens traveling on U.S. passports to South Africa for business or leisure must have the appropriate visa prior to travel. Contact the South African High Commission in Botswana for further information and confirmation of the documentary requirements for travel.
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> · Travelers must present proof of their accommodation address in South Africa.
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> · All travelers will undergo COVID-19 screening at the Port of Entry. Those exhibiting symptoms will be required to take a COVID-19 PCR test at their own cost. If they are positive, they will be required to enter a designated quarantine site for 10 days minimum at their own cost.
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> · All travelers must have international medical insurance in case of mandatory testing and quarantine or medical treatment.
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> · The Government of South Africa encourages all travelers to download their COVID-Alert APP which notifies subscribers and provides guidance in case of contact with a person who has tested positive for COVID-19.
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> Please note that Botswana’s travel regulations have not changed. Botswana’s borders are still closed to those without Botswana citizenship or residence permits, and all travelers will be subject to mandatory testing and 14-day quarantine upon re-entry to Botswana from South Africa.
The 18 land borders into South Africa that were partially operational are now fully operational. The 35 land borders that were closed remained closed. The list of borders and their status can be found here.
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> Three airports are now operational for business and leisure travel to South Africa: OR Tambo (Johannesburg), Cape Town International (Cape Town), and King Shaka International (Durban). However, flights from Botswana have not yet resumed and international flights to and from Botswana remain suspended at this time.
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> Please note that Botswana’s travel regulations have not changed. Botswana’s borders are still closed to those without Botswana citizenship or residence permits, and all travelers will be subject to mandatory testing and 14-day quarantine upon re-entry to Botswana from South Africa.





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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15287327 10/05/20
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Yeah, that's why I said what I said about USA citizens traveling over there. Having anything to do with SA puts yourself at serious risk of being sent home, quarantined, etc. I wouldn't touch SA with a 20ft pole for a few months. They (SA) sometimes seem to make the rules up as they go, or change their mind at the flip of a switch, half the folks over there who should know the rules have no idea what the rules are, or at least act like it, etc.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
They (SA) sometimes seem to make the rules up as they go, or change their mind at the flip of a switch, half the folks over there who should know the rules have no idea what the rules are, or at least act like it, etc.


Thats what majority rule will get you.


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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15288107 10/06/20
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Don't conflate RSA with all of Africa.

As of yesterday, only Botswana is completely closed to non-Botswana citizens/resident card holders, other than logistical/transport (truckers) workers.

RSA is open to basically RSA citizens and regional African countries and limited non-leisure (business) international travelers with limitations/requirements stated above. US passport holders, as well as others CAN transit through Johannesburg Airport en-route to another country. Travelers just can NOT leave the transit side of the airport. Means no overnight stay a the City Lodge Hotel, Protea Hotel on the airport grounds or other off airport grounds lodging.

Southern African Countries currently open to business and leisure travel (tourism/hunting) are Namibia, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe that I am aware of, if you can sort out the airline transport in/out.

There are US guys going to the "open" countries for the past few weeks. As in all things, if an individual feels/believes the risks are to great, by all means don't go. This will be pretty much all moot in a few weeks as most of the "open" countries hunting seasons, with some private land exceptions and non-regulated game species, will be generally closed if not closed already. Most countries "official" hunting seasons won't begin again until Feb-Apr of 2021, depending on the country.

If someone is interested in booking for next year to lock in some really good deals, I'd say do it. Just make sure the outfitter doesn't require a "non-refundable" deposit or maybe willing to wait until 3-4 months before you actually arrive to wire over funds/deposits. As bad as the operators over there are seriously hurting financially, the reputable ones will understand the client's trepidation and "make a plan" that you both can live with.

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Originally Posted by Cascade
Thoughts or speculation on traveling to South Africa, summer of 2021 for a hunt?

Will it be possible? I'd like to finally go - and I suspect that there will be some good deals offered since 2020 was likely a pretty dismal year due to travel restrictions.

Anticipated problems for 2021?

Thanks, Guy

I do not anticipate any unforeseen problem for 2021, the vaccines are almost ready, the election is next month and yes, 2021 will be great and bring good fortunes to our way!


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Re: South Africa 2021 ? [Re: Cascade] #15322283 10/18/20
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I'm headed to S.Africa in April. The hard part right now is trying to book air travel.


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