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Originally Posted by High_Noon

What I don't understand is that they must know Marxism is responsible for hundreds of millions of murders and deaths, yet there's still Marxists - alive and well and agitating. A bunch of serious morons out there incapable of critical thought.


All that matters not in the land of "give me more free schitt" Those people are (possibly genetically) incapable of considering long term consequences.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
I would send the letter but leave the name calling out of it. I would also encourage him to get help with his mental illness and his alcoholism.


Thanks, but there definitely needs to be a certain amount of name calling. Chief among those names is MARXIST. Nobody has told him, so it is my responsibility to let my brother know that he's an abject moron and he need to reexamine his beliefs or he will end up alienating all his friends and family.

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Fortunately, the worst I can say about my brother, is that he thinks his 6.5 Creed is better than my 6.5x55. I can live with that.


You might be able to live with that, but to me, those are fightin' words!


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Originally Posted by High_Noon

I spoke to my Mother tonight and I told her how he crossed the line with me. She was very quiet while I was speaking. I think she was deeply hurt. She finally told me she didn't want to hear any more and she forbade me from telling Dad. I feel terrible now, but I thought it necessary to tell her. .


You sound like you come from good stock and it breaks my heart to hear your mom’s reaction because that’s exactly how my mom would’ve reacted if it was me and my brother fighting.

Knowing how deeply good parents want their children to get along and based on your mom’s response I’d never bring it up again and I would not have it out with your brother. For your parents sake I would be the bigger man and bottle up my anger, the anger goes away pretty quickly when it’s not life or death. Be thankful for a mother that loves both of her boys and her husband enough to want to protect them all.

Best of luck with whatever your decision is and I hope, for your mom’s sake, that your decision is tempered by the knowledge of a mother’s love.


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Toss the letter in the trash and never talk to him again. Your life will be better for it. All my family are leftists and I’m much happier now that I cut them off. My family is my circle of friends. Sadly my mother who I had remained close to has developed a severe case of TDS and about six months ago became the last member of my family I cut off. She’s the only one I have any regrets about cutting out of my life but it got the the point we couldn’t even have a pleasant conversation about the weather. She would bring it around to climate change and then go off about Trump destroying the world.


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Aces: Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot to me. In my view, being the "bigger man" means directly confronting my brother's anti-American, Marxist beliefs. It takes a bigger man to stand up for what's right, than ignore it or pretend it isn't so or accept his ignorance while doing nothing to rectify the situation. Part of the problem in America today, is that not enough people are willing to take a stand against this evil. Americans have largely become apathetic, which is the primary reason Marxism has made such incredible inroads into this country.

Dave: At this point, I don't think such action is warranted. Though I am still vacillating, regarding sending the letter, I believe it is my duty, as the eldest, to attempt to lead my brother into the light. I don't, for a minute, believe that my folks wold cut him off like that (although Dad has come close many times), and although I live over 680 miles away from them, here in far W. TX, I would have to be around my brother every time I traveled back to Big D, for many reasons. It would be far better for all involved if I was able to make him see the error of his ways. I cannot abandon my brother just because he's a f*cking moron - at least not yet. I am sorry to hear about your mother, I am sure it was an extremely difficult situation. Thanks.

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I've written well over 30 pages in draft form, but there's a great deal more to write, if I'm so inclined. Tonight, I decided that such a lengthy litany would probably be wasted on him, so I cherry picked my draft document, cut it down as much as feasible in order to underscore the points I wanted to make, and I ended up with a 15 page letter. I just need to finalize it and decide whether or not to send it to him. I'm leaning heavily towards sending it, but I'll probably sit on it for a few more days.

My brother has sent me a few unrelated txt messages/photos, but has not brought up anything political. I ignored his texts and will continue to do so until after I send him the letter - if I do indeed decide to send it.

More to come...


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Roger that!

My sister is liberal as hell.......we just don't bring it up.




Me too, my whacko Lib sister hates Trump, cannot elucidate a single logical argument why. I just don’t talk politics with her either. BTW she has around 60 sheep, heritage breeds, we all don’t like the sheep either.

My NY brother told me I had “joined the enemy” years ago when he found out I was in the NRA. I got him into guns and motorcycles. Thirty years later he rides with the Patriot Guard and votes Republican.


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Tie his butt up if you have to and watch the film “Trump Card” with him, it is a must see documentary by Dinesh D'Souza.
If that doesn’t enlighten him he is hopeless.


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I say go ahead and send your brother the letter if you think it will make you feel like you tried, but I highly doubt he'll read it in it's entirety, if at all, but even if he does, don't expect it to change his pro-Marxists beliefs one iota anymore than like arguments ever have with the liberal socialist trolls here on the Campfire.

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as long as your parents are alive, toss the letter and just forget he exists. people like that will not change and all you're doing is stressing yourself over it. i have friends and family i don't associate with for one reason or another. as much as i like to air my grievances with obvious schitheads, sometimes discretion is best.


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as long as your parents are alive, toss the letter and just forget he exists. people like that will not change and all you're doing is stressing yourself over it. i have friends and family i don't associate with for one reason or another. as much as i like to air my grievances with obvious schitheads, sometimes discretion is best.


Agreed. Sending the letter will accomplish nothing. Just ignore him from now on.

And it might have a happy ending. My BIL was a flaming lib, ran for state senate as Lib in one of the most Lib states. Always marching for women's rights, black rights, etc. A year or so ago he became disenchanted with the Dems, but kept on with "Orange Man Bad," and said he would write in Ted Cruz.

Last week he voted for Trump.


Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.

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If you can’t keep your letter to front and back of one page it is being written for your benefit and not his. 15 pages? Nobody is going to read that, especially someone who doesn’t like what they are reading. You have already wasted too much time on this, go live your life and be happy.


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Granted, the letter I've written was likely more for my own edification, but I do not feel that I am wasting my time at all. These issues must be discussed and brought to light, not ignored and concealed. Dad asked me weeks ago to write an essay regarding the extreme danger supporting democrats and the Marxist ideology poses to our Union, so my plan is to expand and rewrite what I have written to my brother and use it as a basis for the essay he requested. I have written hundreds of pages regarding political systems, political theory and political history, so this letter is but a very small part of what I have already written. I'm also willing to bet that if I post this letter here on the 'fire, many would not only agree with what I've written, but also make a point of reading the letter in its entirety and sharing it with their own friends and family - particularly those misguided Marxist souls they may know.

My brother is a writer, or at least he calls himself a writer since he majored in the highly sought-after field of "creative writing" in college [sarc.] He'll read the letter, I know it. The letter is extremely well written, not overly critical of him, personally, and should go a long way towards illuminating the error of his ways. Meebe not, but any sane person would begin to see the light upon reading it. At the very least, perhaps, it will plant a seed in his addled mind. Perhaps, after reading the letter and seriously considering its content he will begin to realize that his long-held Marxist beliefs are nothing more than insidious propaganda. I doubt it, but you never know.

Way back then, when he chose to attend Emerson college in Boston and he was but a wee lad, I sat him down and sternly warned him not to listen or believe the Leftist garbage he was sure to encounter there. I did this on several occasions prior to his departure for Boston. He obviously ignored me. Dad has said for years that both Emerson and Boston was the source of his commie beliefs. I think he's correct. Have you ever seen youngsters discussing and debating their new-found knowledge on a college campus? I have, several times, and believe me when I tell you that it's highly comical.

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Originally Posted by High_Noon
Granted, the letter I've written was likely more for my own edification, but I do not feel that I am wasting my time at all. These issues must be discussed and brought to light, not ignored and concealed. Dad asked me weeks ago to write an essay regarding the extreme danger supporting democrats and the Marxist ideology poses to our Union, so my plan is to expand and rewrite what I have written to my brother and use it as a basis for the essay he requested. I have written hundreds of pages regarding political systems, political theory and political history, so this letter is but a very small part of what I have already written. I'm also willing to bet that if I post this letter here on the 'fire, many would not only agree with what I've written, but make a point of reading the letter in its entirety and sharing it with their own friends and family - particularly those misguided Marxist souls they may know.


My brother is a writer, or at least he calls himself a writer since he majored in the highly sought-after field of "creative writing" in college [sarc.] He'll read the letter, I know it. The letter is extremely well written, not overly critical of him, personally, and should go a long way towards illuminating the error of his ways. Meebe not, but any sane person would begin to see the light upon reading it. At the very least, perhaps, it will plant a seed in his addled mind.

Way back then, when he chose to attend Emerson college in Boston and he was but a wee lad, I sat him down and sternly warned him not to listen or believe the Leftist BS he was sure to encounter. I did this several time prior to his departure for Boston. He obviously ignored me. Dad has said for years that both Emerson and Boston was the source of his commie beliefs. I think he's correct. Have you ever seen youngsters discussing and debating their new-found knowledge on a college campus? I have, several times, and believe me when I tell you that it's highly comical.


I know you aren’t wasting your time. Hope you didn’t take my post the wrong way, Like others have stated I doubt he would get through 15 pages. I have dealt with this issue In my own family and it is physically and emotionally draining. I personally just learned to let it go and limit contact with those family members. You are doing what you think YOU need to do to get through it. Wishing you luck and hoping you find a sense of peace for yourself at the end of it.


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All this makes me grateful for graduating from Fort Benning's School of the Infantry.

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All this makes me grateful for graduating from Fort Benning's School of the Infantry.

Indeed. That's why you're a pretty danged good hombre.


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jdunham: Thanks, Bud. He'll read it. My imbecilic brother fancies himself enlightened, or, to dumb it down for the average 21st century moron (and this does not apply to you) - he fancies himself "woke." What a detestable, ignorant Marxist term that is. I grew weary of revisionist Marxist language like that long ago.


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