Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles There is nothing greater than the 30-06 so quit trying

It is indeed my Friend, never got one back.

I once saw a bumper sticker that said "If you ain't got a 280, you ain't got schitt".

Is that still the case?

MM

LOL, it's a fine round, particularly with an 8 twist barrel if one needs to go long.

Read my signature line.😊

Congratulations on being the first to ever voice this unique, yet irrefutable, position.

A lot of people seem to like vanilla ice cream. I see the 30-06 the same way. It certainly works, if what you are after is just some ice cream, but that doesn't make it "greater".

It’s the Ford 8N of cartridges.

You all really need to try the 7.62x63 and then watch yourself throw your 30-06 rifles in the trash

I have a .3006, a .280 and a .308.
For me, the rifle is as much a factor as rhe cartidge.
Deer dont care what you shoot or how much you spend.
Just run what ya like.

My fave deer cartridge is actually a 35 rem ( for timber ).

I think my .30-06 is going to be rebarreled to 7x57.

i beg to differ, but alas to each there own

Greater for what? Can't even imagine doing 200+ rds full house 06 reloads in an afternoon but that's no problem with a 223 in a hot dog town waiting for a thinning. I can load my 7mm mag down to 280 specs easy. There is overlap in all cartridges. I'd guess that if you kept detailed kill data over your life and analyzed it after your hunting was over you'd find in reflection that most cartridges would have met your needs. We have all these different cartridges so we can have variety in our lives and that the gun companies make money not so you can have the perfect tool. If we tried out and used different women as often as guns and different cartridges the left would have bountied us out of existence along time ago. Wtf? Shoot what you want and QUIT trying to round up and group people to your fugging idea of what is perfect. Sh*t that's how they manage goddamed ballplayers for christ's sake. You one of them take a knee ass*oles? MB

I love my 30-06 rifles. However, they can't shoot a bullet as fast as my 204 can. They can't shoot as heavy of a bullet as my 375 can. They have way more recoil than my 7/08 does. They can't shoot as high of a BC bullet as my 260 does. They use way more powder than my 223 does. My 30-06s just seem to have so many shortcomings. I still love my 30-06 rifles.

I do like this little tidbit, although easily outdone..

223 w/ 75 HPBT



30-06 167 Scenar

The 30-06 works great. Especially if you are after something big like elk,moose,or big bears or boars. It will kill all of the above without outrageous recoil.

For deer,I want something that kicks less and/or shoots flatter at normal hunting ranges of 500 yards or less.

Last few years I've been using a 6.5 Creedmoor with a 120 grain monolithic bullet at 3000 fps. It shoots flatter and/or kicks less than a 30-06.

This year I'm going to try a 7mm-08 with a 120 grain monolithic bullet. Also going try a 243 with the 90 grain accubond. May even take my CZ in 6.5 Grendel. It shoots about as flat as a 30-06 and has a lot less recoil.

I don't know where you get that data....I push the 75's to 3k out of several 22" bolt guns.

And that isn't the BC Lapua lists for the 167 Scenar. And why would I pick a 167 with a lower BC than the 155, and then shoot it at a weak speed? Why not pick the 155 and shoot it around 3k?

Or try the .300 Whelen.

No doubt about about it. That’s softball factory loaded stuff. The 167 Scenar is G7.

I’ve still got a stash of handloaded 155’s, hard to beat in an ‘06. However, my days of riding a rockchucker are long behind me.

So in essence, they both suck. But they suck the same...